new to mx .have an rm 250 but its to hot for me in the woods even after gear changes but ok on the track.interested in getting a bike i can play hard with but still can chase the kids in the woods.please include brand names.still learning the alphabet of all the different models.also had my rm's top end done and jetted it different but it is hard starting.any tricks.thanks.jbmc.
what is the best mx/trail bike
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ride_red_15
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- Oct 14, 2001
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honda xr400 is great for woods and track, or if thats too hot a xr250
dirt bike dave
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- May 3, 2000
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Beach - a couple of tricks for cold starting are lean the bike over to the left until fuel trickles out the vent hose and to turn the air screw in 1/2 turn.
One motocross 250 with good low end power is the '99 Honda CR250, but there are lots of other things you might want to modify (like the forks) to make it into a good trail bike.
One motocross 250 with good low end power is the '99 Honda CR250, but there are lots of other things you might want to modify (like the forks) to make it into a good trail bike.
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Beach, if you want a really good bike for trail and track you could go with a GasGas 250 EC or a KTM 250 EXC. The GasGas is very woods friendly and quite capable on the track. The KTM will give you more of the explosive type power of your RM but will be more woods friendly with zero modifications.
Both bikes are pricey new but come with some of the best equipment on them stock.
On the other hand, a flywheel weight can help calm your RM down in the woods and some suspension work will help as well. Get yourself "bark busters" as well. Check out MXTech (link on the lower left of your screen). Jeremy did my suspension on the Mamba and it works much better now. I ride mostly woods and some track. The cost of doing your suspension is worth it. That alone may be all you need, except the "bark busters".
Sorry, the Mamba is the DRN project bike. 99 KX 310, MXTech suspension, Eric Gore porting, extras out the wazoo.
Both bikes are pricey new but come with some of the best equipment on them stock.
On the other hand, a flywheel weight can help calm your RM down in the woods and some suspension work will help as well. Get yourself "bark busters" as well. Check out MXTech (link on the lower left of your screen). Jeremy did my suspension on the Mamba and it works much better now. I ride mostly woods and some track. The cost of doing your suspension is worth it. That alone may be all you need, except the "bark busters".
Sorry, the Mamba is the DRN project bike. 99 KX 310, MXTech suspension, Eric Gore porting, extras out the wazoo.
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Beach...My buddy had the same problem - had a 98'RM250. After "all" kinds of work(top-end rebuild, shocks, gearing, etc.) he broke down and purchased a 2002 Honda CR250. I got a chance to ride the new Honda, and was pretty impressed. In stock form I was extremely comfortable in the woods, and on the track. Although I would change gearing, handlebar location, and add a flywheel weight.
Iif I were to purchase a new ride, it would have to be (four or two-stroke) a KTM250/400EXC, a GasGas250/450?EC/, or Husqvarna250/450?WR. Although the new Honda CR450(with some work) sounds appealing.
Aloooha!:)
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Iif I were to purchase a new ride, it would have to be (four or two-stroke) a KTM250/400EXC, a GasGas250/450?EC/, or Husqvarna250/450?WR. Although the new Honda CR450(with some work) sounds appealing.
Aloooha!:)
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There are many and I many answers to your question. I suggest a KTM 200 mxc or maybe even a KDX 200(not good suspension). I do have a 99 Honda that is near new with suspension mods done. It is a good bike for both track and trail(too slow for me)(for sale cheap). i personally like the KTM300 but it is "hot". 4 strokes are good alternatives but somewhat heavy. I am sure that everyone here has an opinion:p
Install an FMF pipe designed to give your bike more power low in the revs and less on the top. Any shop should be able to tell you more. Also, try to back off on your compression dampening on your forks and rear shock. You can go all the way if you like and increase the front and rear one click at a time until you get to where it feels good. Keep a screwdriver with you so you can adjust on the trail so you can feel the difference while it is still fresh in your memory. This technique worked for me. About hard starting, bear in mind the choke on your bike only functions with the throttle fully closed. Always turn your fuel off when parked to prevent flooding and confusion about your cold starting routine.When the bike starts, turn the choke off as soon as possible and slowly warm up your bike. Never clear up the bike by shifting under full throttle until it clears up. This will foul your plug much quicker than normal because you are flushing oil up from the crankcase that has settled into a puddle while your engine has been setting up for a week. I hope this helps.
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My experience is 'nil, but keep the KX500 in mind. You may laugh, but really--I guarantee this bike is easier to ride than a high-strung RM250. And while it's not nearly as good in the woods or as cleverly designed as GAS GAS or KTM, it does have a reasonable MX suspension and, of course, all the power you can handle. It will out-chug most 4 strokes all day long, if jetted properly.
Keep the source in mind, though. I'm just getting back into this, and I do not have the experience most here have. Good luck.
Keep the source in mind, though. I'm just getting back into this, and I do not have the experience most here have. Good luck.
Nephron writes:
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"(A KX 500) will out-chug most 4 strokes all day long, if jetted properly. "
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Yes, but from what I hear, even God couldn't get his KX 500 jetted right. They either blubber or ping, sometimes both, and it changes with every foot of elevation and degree of temperature.
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"(A KX 500) will out-chug most 4 strokes all day long, if jetted properly. "
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Yes, but from what I hear, even God couldn't get his KX 500 jetted right. They either blubber or ping, sometimes both, and it changes with every foot of elevation and degree of temperature.
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If you are slow or timid XR250 or KDX 200/220. Even Okie could ride one of these in the woods safely;)
Somewhat faster guys will prefer the Gas Gas or KTM 200s or a WR 250.
If you're real fast but just don't like the way the RM behaves in the woods go with a Gas Gas, TM or KTM 250 or 300. More power than these bikes make is more hinderance than help IMHO. If you're thinking valves 400-450ccs is the most you would probably want in the trees. Again too much HP and too much weight will just beat you up.
Nephon, no offense but anybody on a 500 mxer in the woods is either density gifted or has a death wish. Here in the central and western NY hare scrambles series there were exactly two regular riders in open B. One KX 500 and one WR 426. The biggest line I ever saw start in open B was 4 riders. I've ridden a CR 500 and honestly I've never had a dirtbike scare me like that thing did.
Motocrossers are for the track. Enduro bikes are for everywhere else.
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Paradigm shifting without a clutch.
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KTM 250
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C Enduro
Somewhat faster guys will prefer the Gas Gas or KTM 200s or a WR 250.
If you're real fast but just don't like the way the RM behaves in the woods go with a Gas Gas, TM or KTM 250 or 300. More power than these bikes make is more hinderance than help IMHO. If you're thinking valves 400-450ccs is the most you would probably want in the trees. Again too much HP and too much weight will just beat you up.
Nephon, no offense but anybody on a 500 mxer in the woods is either density gifted or has a death wish. Here in the central and western NY hare scrambles series there were exactly two regular riders in open B. One KX 500 and one WR 426. The biggest line I ever saw start in open B was 4 riders. I've ridden a CR 500 and honestly I've never had a dirtbike scare me like that thing did.
Motocrossers are for the track. Enduro bikes are for everywhere else.
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Paradigm shifting without a clutch.
ORW
KTM 250
B HS
C Enduro
Don't rule out the KDX200/220! The 220 (I have no experience with the 200) is a wonderful bike... great to learn on, and quite fast when worked over. And Cheap! With the money you save on a KDX220R over a much faster bike... you can afford to have the suspension reworked, as well as a pipe and carb.
zio
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Gotta second the kTm 200's. FWIW- I've ridden new 250 2-stroke MXers, older (and heavy) 4 strokes, and the kTm 200 (although very briefly), and found that the kTm had plenty of power for my lard butt. They're light, nimble, well suspended, and reliable. Remember, Shane Watts consistently beats out guys on much larger, more powerful machines. 90% rider, 10% bike is how the saying goes.
Find one that "feels" right, hopefully by actually riding them, not just sitting on them at the dealer. I can't ever remember any dirtbiker saying "no" to a request to try his or her ride. In fact, I don't remember having to ask much. Just express interest, that you're currently looking for something different, and 9 times out of 10 they'll offer before you have to ask. :cool:
I'm real antsy to try a KDX, and a kTm 300, and on and on.... I'm going to a DRN Spodefest here soon and can't wait to try out lots of different bikes (currently bikeless and saving my $$$). Good luck!
Find one that "feels" right, hopefully by actually riding them, not just sitting on them at the dealer. I can't ever remember any dirtbiker saying "no" to a request to try his or her ride. In fact, I don't remember having to ask much. Just express interest, that you're currently looking for something different, and 9 times out of 10 they'll offer before you have to ask. :cool:
I'm real antsy to try a KDX, and a kTm 300, and on and on.... I'm going to a DRN Spodefest here soon and can't wait to try out lots of different bikes (currently bikeless and saving my $$$). Good luck!
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