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Message: [QUOTE="Rich Rohrich, post: 33810, member: 16241"] Bruce, in all seriousness take a look at the programs that Met-RX recommends. I have used the product since it's early field trial days, and have had nothing but good results with it. I know Okie's wife was trying it this summer and he was telling me that she has been getting great results.  Of the 100 or so people I've gotten to try it in the last 10 years, I haven't found anyone who didn't take something positive away from the experience. I'm 41, and I should come into this spring weighing about 218 @ 7-8% bodyfat on a 5' 5" frame. Met-Rx constitutes about 75% of calories when I am training hard.  That and a decent training program can do remarkable things. ------------------ Rich Rohrich Applied Fluid Dynamics rich@dirtrider.net www.eric-gorr.com [/QUOTE]