I race the Vet A 30/25+ in NE, and we race at some pretty fast tracks, Southwick, Jolly Rogers, etc,,,don't get me wrong, I like the 125, I do really well on it but,,,,,I have to go sit on some of them,(KTM's) again, I go back and forth w/ this all day 125/250/125/250,,,,The lowest price I got was $200 off retail, $4,798 + .05% tax= $5,038,,,,sorry, I don't care how fast it is, I'm not paying over 5k for 125. I bought my 02 CR125 in Sept 01 for $4,400 + tax. I will pay $4,400 + tax 4 a KTM, but that's it. Maybe it's a bit unrealistic to a lot of KTM riders, but that seems like a lot of $ for a bike that isn't really that popular at the races. I know that bone stock it has better bars, chain, motor, etc,,,but that doesn't total up to aother $600. Don't bash me on this though, explain to me why it is so expensive for one and I'll listen. BTW how much more expensive are their parts??? Cylinders, brake pads, top-ends, gaskets??? My sone rode a 65sx that we couldn't get a clutch gasket for a month, that sucked.