my quote, unaltered, Joe....
[QUOTE= "It's far easier to ask forgiveness after something is proven successful rather than begging for someone's permission prior to trying. (just like a clean pass or a bump & run)
Generally this is only applicable in the special effects craft, the military or when racing, NOT our f'd up, pathetic, bogus 2 major party up political system, ran by politiCIAns, that take home more money (tax Free) than most of us will ever see. It WAS our money! :bang: :yell: :| :fft: