High Lord Gomer
Poked with Sticks
- Sep 26, 1999
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Very good distinction! Personally, I find pre-loading more difficult as it requires precise timing.KX250Dad said:Not to be picky, rather to avoid confusion with those less experienced. Seat bouncing and pre-loading a jump are not one in the same. Seat bouncing is more a sx/ax thing where tight turn enter jump, lower speeds, need air to clear... and yes it's an art form all its own and works well when mastered, and hurts like hell when learnig... pre-load is higher speed, generally done from an attack position and gets the air needed (maybe) to clear a long double or triple.
Ike DeJager always stressed to us that we should re-grip the throttle as we enter a turn to ensure that we could twist it all of the way when exiting. It also give you a chance to loosen your grip for a fraction of a second.I agree, doubt that your really pinned... unless your upper B/A or money class. Most intermediate riders don't realize they have another 1/8th turn on the throttle, this last bit of turn may be somewhat odd to the twist... might suggest moving the throttle tube forward the where "pinned" is rolled all the way back without being uncomfortable to the wrist position. You'll know pretty much immediately if this is a solution.
LOL!last note, try with your eyes closed, it'll hurt less.
KX250Dad said:Not to be picky, rather to avoid confusion with those less experienced. Seat bouncing and pre-loading a jump are not one in the same. Seat bouncing is more a sx/ax thing where tight turn enter jump, lower speeds, need air to clear... and yes it's an art form all its own and works well when mastered, and hurts like hell when learnig... pre-load is higher speed, generally done from an attack position and gets the air needed (maybe) to clear a long double or triple. Pre-loading the suspension can be pretty cool but remember, the guy (gal) that clears the obsticle and gets on the ground driving first is the one winning races.
I agree, doubt that your really pinned... unless your upper B/A or money class. Most intermediate riders don't realize they have another 1/8th turn on the throttle, this last bit of turn may be somewhat odd to the twist... might suggest moving the throttle tube forward the where "pinned" is rolled all the way back without being uncomfortable to the wrist position. You'll know pretty much immediately if this is a solution.
ps... whatch the landing on the step-up, hate to see the rear wheel clip and bounce you over... last note, try with your eyes closed, it'll hurt less.
The effect is the same, but the difference is in how it is done. Pre-loading is similar to doing a bunny-hop with a bicycle. You push the bike down to give extra compression to the suspension on the jump face then "jump" up. This gets you moving up before the bike so that the bike's rebound is pushing mostly just it's weight instead of you and the bike. Doing this can get you a lot higher, but it requires fairly precise timing.HajiWasAPunk said:I don't understand the difference, don't in both cases you apply some downard force on the bike so the suspension is compressed before you're off that ground, causing it to uncoil in the air and provided a spring effect to get more loft?
I can barely do either (preloading does seem easier) but I thought they were really the same thing, just a matter of preference as to whether you were seated or not?
Every time I sit on the bike the chain stretches...why is that?!? :whoa:trial_07 said:I think that chain needs tightening Gomer :nener:
High Lord Gomer... thanks, gotta set of killer whoops whereas you stated... to jump in 3 deep, to high, and don't know whether to blitz from there or try to jump/jump the balance. The fastest way has been to go in gear high, roll hard throttle and "skim"... whoops are far apart the suspension takes it but it beats the hell outta the bike/son. Should he pre-load going in the line in will be "flatter" without loss of forward momentum... may do the trick... thanks again....you can preload early before hitting a small jump or whoop to extend the suspension before hitting it. This will result in not being thrown up in the air by the bump/whoop as much. This is useful when entering a whoop section where you don't want to jump up into them but rather you want to skim across the top
High Lord Gomer said:
I don't really know him, a friend just took a couple video clips of him 3 or 4 years ago. I did a search for him on Google but didn't come up with anything recent.TeXas_MXer said:::speechless:: Does anyone have the phone number to his suspension tuner?!?!?
TeXas_MXer said:::speechless:: Does anyone have the phone number to his suspension tuner?!?!?
I asked the same thing a while ago. I'm pretty sure it was some kid blowing smoke trying to impress people on the internet. We get a lot of that while school is out for Christmas.Mini Rider #4 said:Dude what track is this at. The track I race at has a crazy step up. :yikes: Which I don't do.
High Lord Gomer said:I asked the same thing a while ago. I'm pretty sure it was some kid blowing smoke trying to impress people on the internet. We get a lot of that while school is out for Christmas.
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