Bubs out for Lakewood.
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Unfortunately shades of Travis. I don't wish that type of thing on anyone. Head injury can ruin a career. Hope he's just has a minor concussion type of thing...Even you James Stewart "anti's" would rather see him racing than on the side lines. Gives us all a reason to watch.
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He seems to be setting a precedent that no other rookie 250 rider has matched for dizzy spells, head trauma and missed motos. It is apparent he is riding out of control and over his head so now he pays the penalty. I hope this time out settles him down and gives him a professional approach to future racing.
Bubba who Ma Ma
Bubba who Ma Ma
Head injuries are the most serious ones we MX'rs encounter; IMO. I rung my bell hard in 2004. It was 5 months before I felt completely normal again. So for Bowfinger to take a week off after his head slapper last weekend sounds reasonable to me. But he is riding over his head; no arguing that. I just hope he returns for Washougal. Because I'm going to be there!!!
I kind of feel sorry for James. Firstly, he's clearly surrounded by 'yes' people that are telling him what he wants to hear and further enhancing his 'rock star' image. And second, he's being compared to the greatest MX rider of all times. Maybe he needs to take a few lessons from KW. I think Kevin has accepted the fact the RC is faster and he's fine with it. He rides his own race and doesn't crash his brains out. Bowfinger on the other hand hasn't come to that reality yet.
I kind of feel sorry for James. Firstly, he's clearly surrounded by 'yes' people that are telling him what he wants to hear and further enhancing his 'rock star' image. And second, he's being compared to the greatest MX rider of all times. Maybe he needs to take a few lessons from KW. I think Kevin has accepted the fact the RC is faster and he's fine with it. He rides his own race and doesn't crash his brains out. Bowfinger on the other hand hasn't come to that reality yet.
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It's all good for the spectators, whether RC and Bubba are out there or not.
My GUESS is RC will retire after next year. If he wins the SX and MX titles in '06, he will have nothing left to prove. He will stop while he still has his health.
If Bubba fails to live up to his 250 class potential or pursues other interests, we are likely to see a situation where there is no single dominant rider. Besides the current top of the 250 class (Reed & Windham) you've got Alessi, Milsaps,Hepler, Langston and Tedesco with the ability to get a 250 SX or MX championship. IMO, Josh Grant and Andrew Short also have the potential to get a 250 win someday.
My GUESS is RC will retire after next year. If he wins the SX and MX titles in '06, he will have nothing left to prove. He will stop while he still has his health.
If Bubba fails to live up to his 250 class potential or pursues other interests, we are likely to see a situation where there is no single dominant rider. Besides the current top of the 250 class (Reed & Windham) you've got Alessi, Milsaps,Hepler, Langston and Tedesco with the ability to get a 250 SX or MX championship. IMO, Josh Grant and Andrew Short also have the potential to get a 250 win someday.
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What really sucks though, is none of the 125 riders stand out like RC did, or Bubba did. I think Alessi stands out the most, and he's doing a great job in his 125 rookie year. All the rest of them don't seem to have that unearthly speed and ability that RC and Bubba have.
I'm going to my first MX national ever this weekend in Lakewood, and I really wish Bubba was going to be there. :(
Ryan
I've rung my bell several times, and had two minor concussions and I feel no ill effects...............
I've rung my bell several times, and had two minor concussions and I feel no ill
I've rung my bell several times, and had two minor concussions and I feel
I've rung my bell several times, and had two minor concussions
I've rung my bell
What was I talking about again????
I've rung my bell several times, and had two minor concussions and I feel no ill
I've rung my bell several times, and had two minor concussions and I feel
I've rung my bell several times, and had two minor concussions
I've rung my bell
What was I talking about again????
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A lot of people feel that the racing is more exciting when you have parity (no RC or KX125 Bubba standouts).
Ryan - Too bad JBS won't be there, but you will have fun at Lakewood! Don't be surprised if you find yourself cheering the hardest for a guy you've barely heard of, just because you like how he rides. Juss Laansoo really impressed me at Glen Helen last year.
Ryan - Too bad JBS won't be there, but you will have fun at Lakewood! Don't be surprised if you find yourself cheering the hardest for a guy you've barely heard of, just because you like how he rides. Juss Laansoo really impressed me at Glen Helen last year.
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Maybe I'm just disappointed I won't see Bubba race my local track, but the cynical side of me says that he realized after his practice on Wednesday that he can't run anywhere close to RC's pace at this elevation. More so than usual, I mean.
Regardless, endurance of one form or another is clearly an issue the Stewart camp need to address if they wish for the 2006 outdoor season to go better than this one.
I'm finding it increasingly difficult to view James in a positive light and not jump on the 'write-off' bandwagon, at this point. Of course, if he's not fit to race then I wouldn't want for him to. But ultimately you make your own luck.
Hopefully a strong SX series will give him some momentum for next outdoors.
Regardless, endurance of one form or another is clearly an issue the Stewart camp need to address if they wish for the 2006 outdoor season to go better than this one.
I'm finding it increasingly difficult to view James in a positive light and not jump on the 'write-off' bandwagon, at this point. Of course, if he's not fit to race then I wouldn't want for him to. But ultimately you make your own luck.
Hopefully a strong SX series will give him some momentum for next outdoors.
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You're right. It's great when there is a lot of parity in the class. It always makes for an exciting season. I just like watching RC and Bubba do things that make everyone stand back in awe.
I wish we could clone RC 40 times and put them all on the starting gate. Maybe OLN would show THAT race :bang:
I've been planning this weekend since I heard we got the race. I'm going to watch practice tomorrow. I'll have some pictures for you guys too.
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lol, everyone's writing Bubba off.. :rotfl: OMG, talk about funny. Unreal. :coocoo:
I personally believe there's been something wrong with him all season. Dizziness, lightheadedness to the point of having to stop x 2, poor performance (People beating him now that he used to lap and should NOT be beating him now), etc. Now that he's hit his head again, and he requires further neurologic evaluation---just further confirmation. No one would sit out for a simple head smack. There's something wrong with the kid, and everyone here's making fun of him. Typical internet BS.
I had 3 concussions in 3 months 9-11/03 (KX500 induced), each leading to increasing symptoms. By the 3rd one, I couldn't even ride. I'd highside everything and drop my bike over to the right when sitting on it standing still. Couldn't judge distance worth a crap. And was usually 'whoozy' when I got off the bike (symptoms increase with trauma/exercise), and all I could do is rest. Fatigue was the biggest surprise to me. Chronic headaches. Emotional changes. Took me probably 6 months to get better, and I still have occasional symptoms.
I personally believe there's been something wrong with him all season. Dizziness, lightheadedness to the point of having to stop x 2, poor performance (People beating him now that he used to lap and should NOT be beating him now), etc. Now that he's hit his head again, and he requires further neurologic evaluation---just further confirmation. No one would sit out for a simple head smack. There's something wrong with the kid, and everyone here's making fun of him. Typical internet BS.
I had 3 concussions in 3 months 9-11/03 (KX500 induced), each leading to increasing symptoms. By the 3rd one, I couldn't even ride. I'd highside everything and drop my bike over to the right when sitting on it standing still. Couldn't judge distance worth a crap. And was usually 'whoozy' when I got off the bike (symptoms increase with trauma/exercise), and all I could do is rest. Fatigue was the biggest surprise to me. Chronic headaches. Emotional changes. Took me probably 6 months to get better, and I still have occasional symptoms.
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You could be right, Neph! And if that's the case, I'd rather see him sit out the rest of the season and get healthy in preparation for the stadiums. It's just such a shame to see such an amazing natural talent struggle with his endurance and the increasingly frequent brain farts the way he has this outdoors.
We've just come to expect such great things from him in the past so he tends to get cut much less slack than the majority of the other riders. But it is his rookie season, after all.
We've just come to expect such great things from him in the past so he tends to get cut much less slack than the majority of the other riders. But it is his rookie season, after all.
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IMO, Bubba gets 'cut less slack' because he has run his mouth and he 's quit mid moto more than once.
If he knew before the season that he had a serious medical condition that prevented him from keeping up with John Dowd at Southwick, he really should not have been running his mouth. I know, I know - He's only 19, so its to be expected blah blah blah.
So one theory is that Bubba had a medical condition from hitting his head too many times prior to the season opener at Hangtown (the first time he faded in the heat and pulled off). My question then is why have he and Kawasaki been so secretive about it for the last four months? Why have they risked Bubba's future every race? It needlessly makes Bubba and Kawasaki look bad, when all they have to do is say "Bubba's been sick since before the season started."
FWIW, Bubba's riding has generally been better at the cooler, less humid rounds. He struggles in the heat and humidity (Unadilla was cool and he lead for 11 laps, so that was one of his 'good' races). Those of us who are not doctors are going to speculate that he lacks RC's conditioning. That's what our eyes and common sense tell us.
If he knew before the season that he had a serious medical condition that prevented him from keeping up with John Dowd at Southwick, he really should not have been running his mouth. I know, I know - He's only 19, so its to be expected blah blah blah.
So one theory is that Bubba had a medical condition from hitting his head too many times prior to the season opener at Hangtown (the first time he faded in the heat and pulled off). My question then is why have he and Kawasaki been so secretive about it for the last four months? Why have they risked Bubba's future every race? It needlessly makes Bubba and Kawasaki look bad, when all they have to do is say "Bubba's been sick since before the season started."
FWIW, Bubba's riding has generally been better at the cooler, less humid rounds. He struggles in the heat and humidity (Unadilla was cool and he lead for 11 laps, so that was one of his 'good' races). Those of us who are not doctors are going to speculate that he lacks RC's conditioning. That's what our eyes and common sense tell us.
I think it is only fair to write him off. Putting him above RC before the two even raced was writting off RC. I think RC has proved that there is more to him as a champion than just being lucky. He, just like bubba, has never been pushed to see how fast or smart he could really ride. Now that they are pushing each other I think RC has proved who the real man is.
You know potential is nothing until materialized and thats all Bubba is right now......potential.(ie Travis)
You know potential is nothing until materialized and thats all Bubba is right now......potential.(ie Travis)
A comparison to Travis isn't vailid, IMHO ... JBS has won more than Travis even entered races.
DBD: I don't think Neph was saying his issues are related to banging his head, rather something else physically... Seems obvious to me there is something wrong with the kid, hopefully they'll get it sorted out.
Why is it on the 125's he could run the pace of the top 250 guys, last the whole moto and suddenly this year he can't? It's not hotter or more humid this year than any other.
DBD: I don't think Neph was saying his issues are related to banging his head, rather something else physically... Seems obvious to me there is something wrong with the kid, hopefully they'll get it sorted out.
Why is it on the 125's he could run the pace of the top 250 guys, last the whole moto and suddenly this year he can't? It's not hotter or more humid this year than any other.
