well main reason now im thinking suzuki, my local honda dealer just doesnt wanna deal, i dont guess, and heres why i think this, i went in there told guy i was wanting xr 650l, well they didnt have any in so i ask him what was best deal he could give me on one anyway, and i told him im not talking finance wise ethier im talking cash, well he starts putting numbers in calculater, then i knew it wasnt going be good he tells me 6085.00 , then i say thats best you can do cash he then says what do thinks is a good price out door, well i tell him i might go 5,500 at the most cash, well he takes it to his boss which says he cant do any better than $5,745, so id rather go suzuki 400 or there 650 here's why i can get the 400 right at 5,200 out the door, tax&tag everything, well sticker is reg 5,499 so thats pretty good, and also the dr 650 is only 4,999 begin with so i know ill get it cheaper than the dr 400, but wanna make sure i get a bike i can run on the road without getting killed cause of lack of speed power deal but still yet get crazy in the dirt, just looking for one that will take me to work maybe a buddies house or something, without haveing to mod right off to be happy, or the cheapest one to buy to mod where i will come out cheaper or not be saying sure wish i would have got that one instead only reason for so much concern with the dr 400 is i hear its a awesome trail bike but havent heard alot about road worthyness, like as a commuter bike, or like a good trip to the mountains which is only around 50 miles away from me,so im still not sure yet but im getting there, thanks for the help i really appriciate it.