so what is the deal with the permit issue. i was out riding on them last weekend with a guy who has been riding them his whole life and when i asked about the permits he had no clue what i was talking about. i dont mind paying the 100 for a permit, but i dont have my dirt bike registered or insured. and to register my bike with the dcnr i would need to show a bill of sale showing that i payed taxes on the bike, which i bought from a guy though a classified ad. so i cant get it registered. i have talked to some others who have been riding the rac lands with out permits and haven't had any problems. Do i really need the permit?