Reuniting with the KDX family, looking at a 01 KDX220

julien_d

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There's no need to hone your plated cylinder. If the plating is worn, it needs to be stripped and re-plated. As long as the plating looks good, clean it really good with a green scotchbrite pad, install a wiseco piston, and go ride!
 

denbsteph

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well that didnt work, I'll try again.

julien_d: The cylinder is in good shape, as stated before no scratches, dings,dents etc, just a few lines, that ARE NOT able to be felt by my finger. Cleaning it with the Scotchbrite pad, use it dry or with some type of liquid? I'm assuming, light scrubbing in a up and down motion? By looking at it it appears to be pretty clean. If you want to see pictures of the KIPS, piston and cylinder e-mail me and I'll send them to you. The MAC won't allow me to download to the site. Dennis
 

julien_d

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With the scotchbrite pad, use some lubrication. Two stroke oil or wd-40 is fine. Try to go around the cylinder, not just up and down it. You're really not going to do much besides clean off some aluminum deposits and oil glaze. Scrub it like you mean it :). When you are done, wash it until you are certain it's completely clean, and then wash it again.

If you want to post pics, you can sign up at photobucket.com for free and upload them there. Pics are always helpful!
 

sr5bidder

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yeah I forgot try to srub those areas you described to me on the phone it may be built up aluminum from the piston and not wear on the cylinder but stil get it measured like we talked about
 

sr5bidder

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JC:
I WAS TRYING TO LINE UP A RIDE AT LAND BETWEEN THE LAKES..KY>opps or possibly cole creek you, dennis, me and any othert kdxer for the week of june 1st through 6th watcha think?
 

julien_d

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Sounds like a good time. Might be tough for me to make KY, but I've been trying to plan a coal creek trip, those dates should work. Looks like H&M with the kdxrider group 5/12 - 5-16.
 

denbsteph

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sr5bidder: Thanks for the info last night on the phone, I'm gonna take that cylinder to a motorhead today, and hopefully it's just slight wear. Like you said last night, It is hard to see it through pictures. Either rides sound like a blast. I'll confirm some dates later.
 

denbsteph

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Alright, I just got back from the machine shop and this is what I was told. Allen at the local motor head shop said the cylinder is perfect, no egging going on. The Bore size is 2.720, just like the owners manual says. Next step, start brillo padding. Allen told me to go in a "X" direction to help the rings seat better.

Last night I was on the phone with sr5bidder and told him about some "Graying". That graying is were the Piston never touches, so that is normal, were the skirt is at.
Now to find a Decent price on a Weisco piston and ring set. any Ideas?????? Dennis
 

denbsteph

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Ok, found a local privateer that works on ATV's and such, I can get the whole Weisco set for around $200.00. The piston set for $150.00. I'm gonna go order that tomorrow. Probably some other goodies as well. Boyssen 607's, jet's and look at a Gnarly Rev Pipe.
Things appear to be coming together. I have the seat and lowering links coming from sr5bidder, so I'll be set in a few days. Dennis
 

jb_dallas

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If you are interested in a used FMF Gnarly Woods pipe, let me know...but if you are going all out, you may want a new pipe. I may buy a rev pipe for my 220. You can find Wiseco piston kits with gaskets for under $200 on Ebay. Just check for positive feedback.
 

denbsteph

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jb_dallas: Thanks for the offer, but right now I'm interested in the rev pipe, based on what I have been reading. I have never bought anything on flea bay, plus I'm gonna give this local guy some business. From what I have heard about him, he is top notch. The guy resides about 20 miles form me, right outside of Henderson NC.

Any KDX riders near Raleigh NC that have found a good jet setting??
 

sr5bidder

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denbsteph said:
jb_dallas: Thanks for the offer, but right now I'm interested in the rev pipe, based on what I have been reading. I have never bought anything on flea bay, plus I'm gonna give this local guy some business. From what I have heard about him, he is top notch. The guy resides about 20 miles form me, right outside of Henderson NC.

Any KDX riders near Raleigh NC that have found a good jet setting??


did he go 15% off the part unlimited catalog for you?

don't forget about the new filter too

your links/seat is on the way
 

denbsteph

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sr5bidder: I'm not sure if he goes thru the Parts Unlimited Warehouse, but I'll find out tomorrow. I'm gonna give dude a chance and see where he stands on those other items. I have a Uni-Filter and three plugs on the way, they should arrive Wednesday.
 

denbsteph

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Received the shop manual and supplement today, YEA!! I got the seat, lowering links from sr5bidder today, YEA!!!. Got the Uni-Filter and plugs today YEA!!!!.

According to several distributors, the Piston for the 220 is currently out of stock. I went to the Wiseco web site and they are "In stock", hhmm. The local guy I went to can get the the entire KIT for $200.00, but "out of stock". The Boyesson 607 he can get for $30.00. Unfortunately he cannot get any FMF products. He can get the Pro Circuit, but I have not done any research on their products. I can get the Desert Gnarly pipe from Bike Bandit for $184.00 and the Power Core II silencer for $96.00.

Once I get the Piston in place, should I hold off on getting the jets right until after the break in period? To me that makes sense, but what do I know.

sr5bidder: The seat doesn't look that bad, but the padding is as you described. Thanks!
 

reepicheep

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Having played with both, I think the pro-circuit pipes are probably a little better performing, the FMF pipes are a little better made. Either would be a good choice.
 

reepicheep

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Oh, and do some research before choosing torque or rev pipe on the 220... a 200 torque pipe is a rev pipe on the 220, and a rev pipe on the 220 is... a mess. Or maybe it's the other way around..... I sorted it all out once and put it here in the archives somewhere.
 

denbsteph

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reepicheep:

The Desert Rev pipe, according to the info I have read, is the one that will give "all around performance, but taking just a small amount from the low end" on the 220. The Woods pipe will aid to the cause of low end and mid, but falls flat like the stock pipe does. I have read that on the KDX Hop-up Guide in the paragraph that begins "Its important to note that because of differences in port timing", about half way down. I have read that article too many times and I have probably confused myself. I think I have it correct though.

I called Bike Bandit and they have "plenty" of Weisco piston kits in stock. I may have to get back with the local guy and give him another shot.

I believe I have the wrong supplement, it does not show the 2001, it begins with 2002. Please tell me it makes no difference and it will work? Dennis
 

julien_d

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reepicheep said:
Oh, and do some research before choosing torque or rev pipe on the 220... a 200 torque pipe is a rev pipe on the 220, and a rev pipe on the 220 is... a mess. Or maybe it's the other way around..... I sorted it all out once and put it here in the archives somewhere.

You are backwards. The only FMF pipe you want for the 220 is the REV. It is basically a torque pipe on the 220. The Torque pipe on the 220 just puts everything TOO much in the torque area, and makes the power delivery very flat.

No difference from 2001 to 2002, you will be fine. Were you asking that in regards to the pipe, or to the piston kit? Either way, both are the same for both years.
 

denbsteph

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The shop manual itself covers the 200, the supplement covers the 220r. The supplement that I have covers the years 02,03. Make sense now? Is there really a difference between the 01 and 02 220r? Hopefully that clears up some confusion.
 

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