What premix oil should I use for bedding in topend
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When i'm bedding my top end, I use KY warming jelly. It's nice stuff.
And then ignore folks who tell you to break in your top end with some synthetic at ridiculous ratio's. First off, break in's should NOT be done using synthetic oils. Use a conventional oil for the break in period and then switch to synthetic later if you like.
There is plenty of debate over the opti lube stuff right now. While I wouldn't be opposed to trying it out for a while, I would NOT use it to break in a set of rings.
My common sense tells me to use a quality name brand conventional 2 stroke oil at 32:1 to break it in. After that, choose the oil you want to run and the mixture you want to run it at and jet accordingly. And then Live happily ever after :)
And then ignore folks who tell you to break in your top end with some synthetic at ridiculous ratio's. First off, break in's should NOT be done using synthetic oils. Use a conventional oil for the break in period and then switch to synthetic later if you like.
There is plenty of debate over the opti lube stuff right now. While I wouldn't be opposed to trying it out for a while, I would NOT use it to break in a set of rings.
My common sense tells me to use a quality name brand conventional 2 stroke oil at 32:1 to break it in. After that, choose the oil you want to run and the mixture you want to run it at and jet accordingly. And then Live happily ever after :)
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Peter, go with a conventional premix at 24:1 to 32:1, then once broken in with one tank of fuel, shift to your favorite synthetic and your pet ratio, then tune the carb accordingly.
I am partial to Amsoil Interceptor at 50:1, which is their recommended premix ratio. I've been running 40:1 and there is a nice black slick on that has everything coated on the inside of the exhaust port. I think 50:1 will be safe enough for my big, lazy low revving 500. Amsoil's street price is about $38 to $40 a gallon but I've bought it for as low as $32/gallon, meaning it's about the same price as Yamalube. One thing about the steep ratios (greater than 32:1) though is that the engine will run a bit richer so you might need to lean out by dropping a notch on your needle, and go down one main jet size.
I am partial to Amsoil Interceptor at 50:1, which is their recommended premix ratio. I've been running 40:1 and there is a nice black slick on that has everything coated on the inside of the exhaust port. I think 50:1 will be safe enough for my big, lazy low revving 500. Amsoil's street price is about $38 to $40 a gallon but I've bought it for as low as $32/gallon, meaning it's about the same price as Yamalube. One thing about the steep ratios (greater than 32:1) though is that the engine will run a bit richer so you might need to lean out by dropping a notch on your needle, and go down one main jet size.
If you've assembled the components to factory clearances, you can use whatever oil you normally run...and at the ratio you normally run.
There is no benefit from using a special oil and/or special mix ratios on a fresh two-stroke. When your bike was brand new, it had all new components. The factory owners manual did not specify a special break-in lube/ratio on a new machine. That tells us much.
Break-in procedure is important. Break-in oil is not; use a good name brand, conventional or synthetic.
There is no benefit from using a special oil and/or special mix ratios on a fresh two-stroke. When your bike was brand new, it had all new components. The factory owners manual did not specify a special break-in lube/ratio on a new machine. That tells us much.
Break-in procedure is important. Break-in oil is not; use a good name brand, conventional or synthetic.
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Thanks you all for the information,
I will just use a mineral Oil for the first tank.
I have been a little delayed putting it back together, It needed a RHS Sub-Shaft O-Ring. I think I damage it alittle on removing it.
The local Bike shop tells me it will be here today sometime.
I want to get in done by the weekend , I have two Daughters & have bought them a PW-50 each . My sister has a farm about 2 hrs away where we ride . There]s about 9000 Acres to play in . I have been trying go for weeks ,but always somthing pops up & I can't go .
This weekend is must !!
I will just use a mineral Oil for the first tank.
I have been a little delayed putting it back together, It needed a RHS Sub-Shaft O-Ring. I think I damage it alittle on removing it.
The local Bike shop tells me it will be here today sometime.
I want to get in done by the weekend , I have two Daughters & have bought them a PW-50 each . My sister has a farm about 2 hrs away where we ride . There]s about 9000 Acres to play in . I have been trying go for weeks ,but always somthing pops up & I can't go .
This weekend is must !!
Makes me realize how lucky I am: I ride the trail bike out of my shop/garage and five minutes later I am in the river bottoms, bouncing off trees! Let's me ride almost every day for an hour after work....howes said:
Allow me to give some fatherly advice: don't put off time spent with your young children. They will be all grown up and gone in a twinkling of an eye. :(
MAKE time to spend with your daughters. They will never forget it.
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Yeah , I have the best 2 girls in the world !
I have been both Mum & dad to them for over 7 years because their Mum never wanted much to do with them & proffered the finer things in life $$$
Recently she came back & wanted to start seeing them more. I found out the hard-way that unless you front up to Court in Heels & wearing a dress you have NO chance against a woman in a Custody battle . I'm hanging on to ever second with them . So the bike weekends away are precious. We had agreat weekend with Bikes & Horses
I have been both Mum & dad to them for over 7 years because their Mum never wanted much to do with them & proffered the finer things in life $$$
Recently she came back & wanted to start seeing them more. I found out the hard-way that unless you front up to Court in Heels & wearing a dress you have NO chance against a woman in a Custody battle . I'm hanging on to ever second with them . So the bike weekends away are precious. We had agreat weekend with Bikes & Horses
This came off as rude? Straight information without guy figuring involved is not rude, its fact. "When/if I get really anal, I will run a tad richer oil ratio", and starve it for gas? See the point? Any decent premix, at the factory recommended oil ratio, and heat cycle it. Even that is not recommended on some models, but I do draw the line there. I like heat cycles on all rebuilds. The entire new engine needed break in time, an over haul is substantially less.mudpack said:
I have no idea what you're talking about, honestly can't make much sense out of that. If you were referring to my post though, the "that came off as rude, sorry" comment was directed towards my own post before I edited it due to rudeness.
Don't drink and post people! It's bad practice...
Don't drink and post people! It's bad practice...
You are assuming/figuring again. I did not see the edit, coffee is very good today, day off even better!julien_d said:
