Man, I think that I am turning in to okie. I'm on a Kawie now, but im starting to long for a very very interesting Honda. No no, not the 500, but the 250.....fourstroke. I know there is one in the works, but does anyone have a clue when it is due out? I am guessing 2003, but here is the other question: I was watching motorcyclist on Speedvision, and it showed el Ryno whipping up on everybody on the 450F, he was commenting on how fast it was and everything, I am just wondering: Is it a 5-valve like the Yamaha? If not, would the 250F be a 5-valve? From what little engine knowlege I have, the more valves the better. I like the yamaha's and all, but honda is a brand that i have never owned, but i have ridden alot and I really want to own one soon. Thank you very much for the input!