Apparently the frames are powder coated. They also have a new seat/tank combo that apparently moves the rider forward more. That may explain the "longer" look. New bar clamp system too, to give several positions forward and back.
How much do the GGs go for up there? Are there any good deals to be had for us Yanks by importing one? That is a sweet looking bike. I wish some dealer would make me an offer I can't refuse. Although I'd probably go with the 250 EC or 250 DC over the 300.
Well, an EC250 lists at $8895 Cnd...trouble is right now with your dollar the way it is, it's getting better for me to come down there :scream: There are some real good deals apparently on 2003 models down your way though. What is US retail?
Give Jim at SMACKOVER , he's fairly close to you and "the" authority on GasGas. You might just find that "offer you can't refuse" ;)
I didn't know your dollar had gotten so strong against ours. Or maybe ours just got weak against yours? Anyway, it doesn't look like I'll be getting a Canadian GasGas. Retail for the EC 250 with Ohlins is $6,945 Without the Ohlins $6,295.
I spoke with Jim and the deals as good, but I'm not sure I want to pay $5200 for an 03 when I can get an 04 KTM for a couple hundred more. I think both bikes have their advantages. In fact I like aspects of both.
The one big negative I see with the GG is the higher initial cost with a lower resale value. The GGs seem to lose a lot more value. I went thru that before with a KTM and Husaberg quite a few years back. Jim did say he wasn't sure if the 04s were worth the extra $1000 to get the new bodywork and upgrades.
Your right about the lower resale for sure :whiner: As you said, just like early KTMs, Husaburgs, Huskies, etc. Smaller market share :|
That said, most that seem to try the Gassers seem to stay with them. They have a beautiful motor, turn on a dime, yet stable at speed and seem to be very reliable and "purpose built". They also have a fairly "Japanese" feel ergonomically.
What year did they go back to the old 98ish frame geometery? Jim told me, but I have forgotten. He said they turn much better now.
About them ergos... I rode a 99 EC200 back in 99 and thought it was really cramped. It's the only GG I've ever ridden. Has the layout changed any since 99? I'm not a tall guy, only 5'9", but I stand 95% of the time thanks to a fractured tail bone (even in the woods).
When I rode the 200 I felt like the bars were at my knees. The owner was short and I'm not sure if the bike was stock or not. My YZ (known to be scrunchy) felt really roomy compared to the EC and the KTMs feel roomy compared to my YZ. Expectedly, I'm a bit concerned over the ergos of the GG. Stealing a ride on a GG is probably not going to happen as I don't see any at our races.
The frames are the same as well as the motors (sort of) based on the 250. It is the best bike ergonomically I have ridden after I installed taller bar mounts that also moved the bars forward. Compared to my '96 KTM 300 my '01 GG XC 250 was like getting on a bicycle when it came to "flickability".
I think it was 2001 when the geometry changed back, but don't quote me. As far as the ergos go, I'm 6'1" (long legs and arms). With the stock bar location, it is a little snug, but not terrible at all. I'm coming off years of Honda CRs.
My next upgrade will likely be moving the bars forward some, as I think it would help.
I'm also a stand up rider, in fact I rarely sat on the CRs. I am learning to sit some on the EC, as it is quite comfortable when sitting, and doesn't abuse me for it (like the CR did).
Oh, and the 200 is based on the 250/300 chassis, not the 125 like KTM.