Death of the 125 - what will be the last 125 year?

When do you think the big 4 (CR, YZ, KX, RM) will produce their last 125cc 2-strokes?

  • 2004

    Votes: 3 0.4%
  • 2005

    Votes: 22 3.3%
  • 2006

    Votes: 125 18.5%
  • 2007

    Votes: 87 12.9%
  • 2008 or later

    Votes: 164 24.3%
  • The 125cc 2-stroke will stick around for at least 10 more years

    Votes: 274 40.6%

  • Total voters
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nikki

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It's obvious that the 250F four-strokes are taking over the 125cc class... I even read that Honda has delayed their production of the '04 CR 125's because no dealers are asking for any and they are going to run another batch of CRF 250's instead. So... when do you think the last 125cc 2-stroke MX bike will be produced by the big 4 (Honda, Yamaha, Kawazuki)?
 

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Wow Nik, you're not too optimistic, are you? :eek: I'm thinkin' 07, maybe later if the Kawazuki (Suzisaki?) merger doesn't pan out (and it does seem troubled, but that's for another thread)
 
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I'm hoping that they clean up the emissions and never go away!
 

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I actually voted 2005 then realized the 2005's will be out in like 10 months.... and wanted to change to 2006, but whatever. Regardless... I figure Honda and Kawazuki can get their 250F's fine tuned after 2 years (as did Yamaha) and probably pull the plug on the 125's in the next 2-3 years. Plus I'm guessing the sales of the 2004 125's is going to be so low that the overhead costs of R+D and production time and unsold inventory and maintaining an extra low-volume bike model and whatnot are going to start outweighing the profits pretty quickly.
 

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'08 or later.

Nothing like the sound of 40 bikes, ALL 125's going into the first turn...

Too bad we'll never get to experience it again... :-(
 

nikki

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A great quote from RC out of the newest RacerX (and I might not have it word for word... but you get the point):


"Pretty soon we'll be having the 2-Stroke Nationals instead of the 4-Stroke Nationals"
 

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I voted '06. I think it is very telling that Honda has not put much r$d money into their 125 lately, or at least you can't see it if they did.
 

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the 125 died in my heart when Steve_125 bought a 250f :whiner: :( :|

the 125 just doenst stand a chance, when even a fire breathing, hopped up, bored out 125 doenst even match up to a showroom stock 250f.

it was never a fair fight to begin with, they should have limited the 4-stroke size to maybe 200 or 225cc's.

dont know what to say about the 250 class, a 250 2 stroke is so hard to sell right now, on my gate on sunday there were two 2-stroke 250s and about 35 450f's, i did notice more 2smokers in the higher classes though.

i wouldnt trade my rm144 for any 250f, but i would gladly trade my 250 for a 450f
 

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The tree huggers can have my two stroke when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. :flame:
 

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I think now that everyone is making one demand for the buck&quarter will slow down. Everyone is looking for that extra power that the baby thumpers have. 06 will be the last.
 
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They will be around for another ten years. honda will be first to drop them, then suzuki, kawasaki, yamaha, I think KTM will be the only one still making a 125 by then. a stock ktm right now is faster than a 250f. I still think 125s will sell for a while though. A hopped up 125 is still faster than a 250f, and considering that a 250f is about 600-1000 bucks more than a 125 depending on what brand, people will still want a 125. It will be a very sad day when noone makes a 125, and when noone makes a 250, thats gonna SUCK. I don't think anyone should relish the fact that the 2-stroke is going extinct, riders should still have the choice to ride what they want, but unfortunatly government intervention, environmentalists, and some motorcycle manufactures are going to eliminate that right.
LONG LIVE THE 2-STROKE!!!!!
 
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