kick start wont turn engine over!!

[Delta-Omega]

hey im kinda a new rider and i just picked up a beginners bike.. its a 2006 orion 4 stroke 125cc and I brought it out to the bush yesterday and then i stopped for about 5 min then went to go out again and when i went to got start it, the engine wouldent turn over.. it wouldent even make a sound if i kicked it down slowly it would make a bit of a sound but i couldent get it started. :bang:

 

[Delta-Omega]

plz?

if any of u can help me i need it depratley.. a feloow rider cant start his bike.. its critacal.!!!!!!!!

 

[Delta-Omega]

i guess no one knows....... hmmmm well just outa curiosity... why does it say that all the moderators are all in bike repair and build bikes?? comon guys give me a hand here

 

[Poltax]

First place to start is do you have fuel? Is the carb clean? Do you have spark? Maybe change the spark plug for a new one. Do you still have compression?

 

[Okiewan]

The kick starter will go down tho? What exactly do you mean by "won't turn over" ? If the kickstarter wont move, it's probably siezed. Does it have oil?

 

[Delta-Omega]

lol finally ok. well what i mean by turn over i mean like the engine wont start or make any noise... yes it moves ( the kick start) and i have gas.. the oil in my tank?? thats a lil low but i know that aint it
and how do i check for compression??

 

[Delta-Omega]

its wierd its lile.... when i kick it down it moves but it sounds like its not cathing anything likes its moving... it springs right back up like normal so it aint broken..but im not sure about that compression..i dont know how to manage that.. the sprk plug is brank spankin new just got it 2 days ago i checked it any ways.. but that aint it..

 

[kurt15]

you might have stripped the starter gear? That, or maybe the gear isnt moving into place correctly?

 

[Delta-Omega]

ok when u say starter gear do u mean the teeth that lie right on the end of the kick starte?? cuz if thats wut u mean they are fine i checked that. it almost sounds like a belt or something inside the motors turning but not turning the engine... like when you start a car the rubber belts... that are the things that turn the cars engine to keep it running thats what it sounds like

 

[Okiewan]

look where the kickstarter connects, see if the teeth are stripped, on the shaft or the kickstarter itself.

Finally? You got replies in a hour. Keep in mind, the more detail you give explaining your problem, the sooner you'll get a response.

 

[Delta-Omega]

thx man but like i said no those teeth are fine... i know its something inside at the

 

[Delta-Omega]

ok when u say starter gear do u mean the teeth that lie right on the end of the kick starte?? cuz if thats wut u mean they are fine i checked that. it almost sounds like a belt or something inside the motors turning but not turning the engine... like when you start a car the rubber belts... that are the things that turn the cars engine to keep it running thats what it sounds like

 

[TWRT]

Is it possible that a valve has tightened up to the point it is not sealing? So, there is no compression and the engine just rotates? Usually, when we say the engine does not turn over, it means the engine is frozen. If the piston moves up and down and it does not start, then it does 'turn over', it just doesn't start.

 

[Okiewan]

The kick starter could be stripped inside the engine, or like TWRT suggested, it could be a valve.

Pull the plug, gently stick a srew driver in the hole until it hits something (the piston).
Gently kick it over (by hand) see if the piston moves.

 

[John Cena]

Try putting your bike in 3rd gear or if you have a higher gear and pushing it, see if the engine is making compression noise. If it does my guess is your kickstarter engager spring inside the engine might be worn or broken.

 

[jbmunnoch]

Like John Cena was saying, from the sounds of it you kick start idler gear is not engaging either due to a broken spring or worn gear. I would try push starting the bike and see what happens.

 

[83MX80]

i know what your problem is i think. if the kickstart lever and the whole KS assembly is working properly then you might of snapped off a couple of teeth on the idle gear. my bike did this and i had to pull the clutch basket off(leave clutch plates in basket) to get the idle gear off.

hope this helps.

 

[dezryder]

What's an "ORION"?

 

[motodr9]

ORION? Can you return it? If not then try to get a service manual for the bike, and check to see if the piston moves when engaging the kickstarter. How long had you ridden it before stopping for 5 minutes? Is this your first ride on it?

 

[John Cena]

How old is the bike? They carry a 3-6 month parts warranty from the manufacture Wenling Import & Export Co., Ltd.