increasing muscle strength. there i hope that helps. :worship: once again this guy,one of my minions,pays me homage. futhermore...the next man to respond to this lads question better have a better answer.!what actually allows you to lift more wieght?
Sure I'll take some! :moon: :)Originally posted by bscottr
Irish….want some cake? LOL
It's true that there is no love lost between the WPPA(West Point Protective Association) and "Mustangs" but from my experiance prior enlisted that go the route of OCS or ROTC turn out to be the more popular officers. Granted its not a contest when command is considered but being prior enlisted certainly does give you some "people skills" that the various "Charm Schools" tend to over look. :thumb:Originally posted by jboomer
It's funny you should say that. From what I've seen, nobody likes ring knockers. Too much arrogance, nothing to back it up with. I was E-4 before being commissioned so I've ridden the bus a couple of times (the short bus ) Must agree, Tops the man. You either love em or hate em. If you hate em, you better pretend you love em, or he'll burn you to the ground!
Pssst...YOU are missing the point.Originally posted by jboomer
Enlisted don't just haze officers to put them in their place!
Pssst...YOU are missing the point.
It just so happened that this was an officer, really didn’t matter though as initiations were something ALL new crewmembers went through. Rank mattered not. This was also just the first phase in seeing how someone reacts to pressure and ultimately if they are a team player.
Mr. Butter Bars was fine with his initiation in a matter of a few flights. Why? Because he quickly understood that his reaction would impact the respect the crew gave him in the future. BTW: He was and is a fine officer.
In an environment such as we were in, the crew was first always and the rank structure secondary. Everyone understood that the conditions changed once the main cabin door opened or closed. Camaraderie, teamwork and mutual respect were the end results. Guess you’d have to live it to understand it.
This isn't unique...just take a look at the aircrews in WWII.
In an environment such as we were in, the crew was first always and the rank structure secondary. Everyone understood that the conditions changed once the main cabin door opened or closed. Camaraderie, teamwork and mutual respect were the end results
Mr. Butter Bars was fine with his initiation in a matter of a few flights. Why?
BTW: He was and is a fine officer.
In an environment such as we were in, the crew was first always and the rank structure secondary. Everyone understood that the conditions changed once the main cabin door opened or closed. Camaraderie, teamwork and mutual respect were the end results.
This isn't unique...just take a look at the aircrews in WWII.
Originally posted by sfc crash
ok now god-@#$@-it. everyone into the bear pit.take it easy on scooter, he pointed out one moment...hopefully not the prodest. but hey..thingys all worked out ok, right? we beat the soviets. as far as respect the rank..ok, what ever. i know the drill. i kinda always looked at rank as the acsess pass, the talk stick. you got to speak first and last on any object, woh the object turned out was because of the respect given the man. yeh, the nam vets "ruined" me for good in the 82d. they put all kinds of crazey ideas in my head.ha! mission first people always.blah blah blah. the fact of the matter is, you will never succeed(damn spelling!) any mission if your men are not behind it 100% intimidation through rank never got that far. me personally, beat everyone till the moaning stopped!ha! i would like to express my attitude by use of a line (somewhat alterd) from hamburger hill, from ssg whatshisname to his new guys "listen, i'm gonna keep you alive and you're gonna keep me alive.(my part now) i'm going to train you how to fight hard and win, giving you the advantage, and you guys are going to save my sorry @$$ every time" NOW! like i said, all rank off, into the pit kiddies, ....let's have some fun" :aj:
Look at your reaction to reading this. Understand now?Originally posted by dirty~d~
How he reacts under pressure? How is shoving his face in cake going to test THAT?
So you are saying that the amount of respect an individual enjoys is limited to their rank? I think not.Originally posted by dirty~d~
The respect goes to the rank, not the person... or did you miss that lesson in basic training?
Taken out of context you could assume assault in today’s military. Not the case though.Originally posted by jboomer
I can understand some type of harmless initiation, but assault?
Again, our Mission Commander “welcomed” the Ensign aboard. Our CO never acknowledged the event publicly because being an aviator, he understood the purpose of crew cohesion and that of the event.Originally posted by jboomer
his CO wouldn't do anything about it!
Agreed…. If the event took place anywhere other than where it did.Originally posted by jboomer
It would be extremely hard for me as an enlisted NCO or otherwise to respect an officer that has been assaulted and failed to crush each and every one of you (physically and/or career-wise)!
You and others posted about "butter bars" and it brought back this memory. I posted what I thought was the funny portion. Damn...next thing I know I'm a shameful, officer hating, disrespectful vet that everyone shuns. Yee friggin haw! :yeehaw:Originally posted by jboomer
You didn't give us a whole lot of "context" to draw from!
Originally posted by cr25096er
will doing butterflies(do u know what i mean?) today be bad if i benched yesterday?
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