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riding in your limits/out of control

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They always say its important to ride in your limits, know your limits. dont push yourself too hard, well you have to push a little or youll never get better. anyways my question is, it seems to me that the pros when they are racing, are riding so fast and so hard that they are like border line out of control. like thier riding almost to the point of out of control but still just inside thier limits. stewart is a good example of what i mean.
 

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I think you should also see that different pro's have different levels of just how far near or over the edge they are willing to ride. RC actually lloks a lot more in control than he did even a few years ago, Windham has always looks smooth and well within the limits of what seems sane. McGrath always looks like he was floating around a SX track and was smooth but working harder on a MX track. Bubba has always seemed to be riding on the other side of the edge to me. He's been burned and rewarded for it.

I think if you are in a competative situation such as racing on a regular basis then it's important to push things when you practice. That way in the heat of battle when you can't help yourself you do have that little bit of extra or at least are less likely to be a serious danger to others and yourself. Learning how far to push things in a race is dangerous for everyone.
 

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I always judge a rider's abilities by how well they know thier limits. It is good to "expand" you limit by pushing your boundries. the key is to know how far to push the limits.
 
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I agree with Patman, I think in order to better yourself you have to push your limits, but it is not a one time thing and you dont do it in a race or in an area you risk others safety for your own gain. I push my limits every time Im out, but I ride trails where the only life I risk is my own and a trees, but when I go to the track and I have all levels of riders on the track with me I will not, unless that track is near empty. In other words "there is a Time and a Place".
 

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Of course the best place to push your limits is when you're practicing. That way, come race day, you know what you and your machine are capable of. However there are times, during a race, you need to push your limits. Kind of like the slogan go big, or go home.

Once, at an enduro, there was a guy on my minute who was in the same class as me. He was a fast hare scramble racer, but had never done an enduro. He basically sponged off me for time keeping. I pushed my limits the whole day taking lines I normally wouldn't have taken just to stay in front of him. Had I stopped and thought about what I was doing he would've beaten me. At the finish I beat him by one point.
 
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#6
tips on getting faster

Tell me if you guys think this is a good idea to get better. I tried it once before and it worked for me until I crashed. Basically you have a guy who is better and faster than you ride behind you on your ass, and you do your best to stay in front of him, and he kinda messes with you pushing you. I tried this by accident, my buddy who is faster than me we went riding and somehow I got in front of him and once I was in front of him I didnt want him to get by. I felt myself riding faster and harder, faster than I would have if I was behind him trying to catch up. He passed me up eventually tho because I pinned it out of a corner and spun the back wheel out. :laugh:
 
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If you already have all the skills and knowledge you need to go faster and all you need is to be pushed past your fears it sounds like it could work. If you want to better develop your skills I would think chasing a faster rider would be better. You can watch the lines they take and the techniques they use. Unless you are an excellent rider you will probably benefit more from skill development rather than pushing your fear boundaries... which can lead to injury.
 
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#8
Being fast is over rated. But of course I'm just guessing.
 

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We like to take 2 riders that are pretty close in speed and play hound and hare. The hare gets a 15 or 20 second head start and then the hound takes off. It goes a preset number of laps (usually 6 to 8) and first across the line wins. They change start positions each time so each gets practice passing and the other blocking
 

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#10
At the track I try to keep up with the kids a little bit faster than me. if I try to keep up with the kids way faster than me, I usually just get sprayed with roost
 
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oldguy said:
We like to take 2 riders that are pretty close in speed and play hound and hare. The hare gets a 15 or 20 second head start and then the hound takes off. It goes a preset number of laps (usually 6 to 8) and first across the line wins. They change start positions each time so each gets practice passing and the other blocking
Sounds like great fun OG!!! :) I occasionally use this same game coaching our cross country runners during our forest runs here. I assure you, not nearly as much fun as it would be on a dirtbike, but they loved it none the less. EXCELLENT idea. :cool:
 

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#12
VintageDirt said:
Being fast is over rated. But of course I'm just guessing.
I would over rate it as high as you over rate it.

or something like that.

And that's a scientific FACT!
 
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#13
As long as you have all the tools and having them work together. Proper form and technique go a long way in this game without it you'll hit a wall and can't go any faster without being totally out of control.

If you were taught the basics correctly and build off of that only your fitness and determination are the limiting factors.
 
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#14
what about age, i used to ride as a kid, now 12 years later im getting back into it. I know that my childhood dream of going pro etc is out of the question, but I would like to be able to "go big" one day. I dont need to be doing any tricks for me to be satisified, I just want to be able to hit one of those monster jumps, the feeling of doing that and while you are in the air has got to be just unreal!
 
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#15
I don't know about all of that, but I would rather be a slow rider on the track than a slow rider that tried to ride too fast and quickly found the hospital.