Toyota Tundra?

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We are having a hell of a time with cars. My dads Chevy Silverado is grenading and he's gonna get rid of it soon. So far it's needed new brakes, new distributer, and new tires. Plus, the power steering was leaking and we needed to replace that. Now the fuel pump is blowing fuses left and right. We've gone through at least 10 this week! Now that we got that straightened out, my dad is going to get rid of the thing as soon as he can. He thinks he wants a Tundra. How are these? We've heard good things about them, but I just wanna hear from some actual owners to see what they think. Anybody?
 

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You could try the support vehicles forum.

From what I hear the Tundra is a great truck, I am considering getting the quad cab for myself.

Mind you, my brother just checked out the new avalanche and this looks to be one great truck !
 

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Tundra safety

If it's up there with the priorities check this out.

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Great video Yarb.

Consumer Reports rates the Tundra its top truck. They also gave poor reliability rankings to the GM trucks. My experience is that their reliability calls are accurate. Much as I like the GM trucks (especially the upcoming Isuzu-diesel), I'd pass. Problem is I was considering a Ford.

Hard to go worng with Toyota, but their small truck ratings fell when they were assembled in the U.S. Still surpassed by the Ford Ranger, according to CR.
 

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Ditto

I concur what Kali says,
I think the new GM's are great value and smartly made. CR will always say a toy is more reliable than a domestic, even before new models can post data, that makes their opinion worth less IMO. Its really splitting hairs nowadays what service events constitutes 'reliability' too.
 

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CR is the only "consumer information" source covering a wide variety of consumer products, that doesn't take "ad" money from product makers. Their data is based on the real-world and comparative experience of many consumers and their products. I can't say they're never wrong, but it's hard to form any reasonable argument of the integrity and results of their data gathering and reporting.

I always read, but don't always follow their advice. I've had three Jeep GCs, which they consider one of the worst vehicles for reliability. I just like the looks and performance of the GC. But, I lease them and turn them in around the warranty expiration.

BTW, CR doesn't subjectively favor foreign makes. They down-graded small toyota trucks following their US assembly. They currently report the Ranger as the best made small truck. If you've ever read their reports or filled out their surveys, you'll find they very sensibly organize "repair" areas to report reliability.

No question reliability can be shored up by good maintenance, but nowadays, most vehicles are designed for low-maintenance and high reliability. Some deliver, some don't--according to owner surveys.

I think the best thing CR has done with vehicles is to establish a comparative "performance metric" that induces makers to build better vehicles. Their last auto issue examined reliability trends and found that reliabilty among most makers has improved substantially.
 
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Buzz Bomb's Siverado speaks for itself - It's grenading so C/S can't be that wrong.

With respect to choosing between a Tundra and an Avalanche I'm probably still inclined to the Tundra. As Buzz Bomb explained their Silverado is packing-in so replacing it essentially with a Silverado in disguise may not be such a good thing. I like the looks of the Avalanche and the midgate is fantastic but the ergonomics are still 80's and backward. The F150 Crew-Cab is still my favorite and has a much better reliability rating than Chevy or Dodge - Now if Ford or Toyota can catch up on the midgate idea.......
 
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My Chevy truck just turned 235,000 miles. I have put 200,000 of those miles on myself. The truck has been bulletproof.

Cameron
 

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I currently own a 2001 Silverado that I got 6 months ago and I recommend it highly. But for most people the Toyota would be better. I have owned several different brands over the years and found that most of the problems I have encounted with domesic brands revlove around all the high tech accessories. The trucks I have had with all the power options and factory stereo upgrades are the ones I've had trouble with. My current Silverado it the base model, the only options are V8, air, and posi. I even have the manual trans. I also get 19 to 21 mpg with it. I did look at the Tundra and if it was available with manual on the V8 I might have got one. I hate automatic transmissions, just a personal thing.
Also has anyone checked out the new truck crash ratings. Tundra got the best rating overall, GM second, but only the GM trucks got a good rating in all 4 injury measurments. Tundra got good rating on 3 of the injury catagories. And I personally dicount the bumper rating as it stems from the amount of property damage to the truck which has little to do with passenger safety.
http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/summary_lgpickup.htm
 
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Fab 150

Those are some serious statistics there, looks like if you own a F150, you may just come out with minimal chest and foot injuries :eek: you may need a new head though :think
 
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I got a Chevy Silvarado extended cab 4x4 Z71 off road about 8 months ago and have over 12,000 miles on it with no problems at all. It has the roomiest cab, 285 hp, pulls our box trailer with ease and the ride is outstanding. While I am sure the Toyota is a good vehicle, I can not compare the two since I made the decision to never buy another foreign automobile again back in 1981. Just curious what year and how many miles are on your Dad's Chevy truck?
 

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Re: Fab 150

Originally posted by BunduBasher
Those are some serious statistics there, looks like if you own a F150, you may just come out with minimal chest and foot injuries :eek: you may need a new head though :think
Bunda if you have the speed you need to check out the video I placed above. It will scare the living crap out of you if you own a new F150.
 
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The stats are impressive but the video is even more so - OK, scratch the F150 from my list and bring me the Tundra.

AL, (Bundu), the stats may give you your legs and chest but there is not much left of the F150 or Ram in the tests on video - The Tundra did amazingly well !
 

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I say the show the clip was taken from and all of the vehicles tested except the toyota faired pretty poorly. I am not sure how valid the test was however since it involed running a truck into a concrete wall. In the real world all of the trucks would have faired better by virtue of stiff steal frame trucks have. In a accident with a car tell me which vehicle would far worse a truck or a unibody car.
 

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I see what you are saying Bwalker. By pure virtue of ramming into another vehicle and both doing the crunching, there would be more forces released and not distributed to the drivers. I don't have to go to AI school to figure that one. However, I believe in surpassing the standards. And being able to handle a concrete bearer and still not having the forces exerted to the driver, by electronic measurement of the crash dummies, just think about how well you would fair by the result of a onset crash. Which BTW happens a hell of lot more times than the other manufactures would lead you to believe- 8,465 times angled and 6,653 head-on in 1999.

Mind you I don't have a Tundra. I am gambling with the Dodge Dakota I have. T-bone crashes, though considerably lower, are what concern me the most though. None of the modern technology to have a higher survivable rate help though when 2/3's of all fatalities in motor vehicles in 1999 were unrestrained.