wayneo426, I totally agree. Once I got the routine down I have not had a problem since. It isn't that hard... Just the other day at the ORV I killed it putting along in too low a gear. While it was still rolling slowing (say ten miles an hour) I managed to pull out the kickstarter, find TDC, and restart it, and keep riding. Easy as pie. My bike has only been hard to start when I didn't follow the drill. Other than that, first or second kick. I have to say the most fun I have had with this was when I was in CA ridng at cow mountain with Fremont Guy... For some reason a guy in the parking lot was stabbing his YZ like a dang fool, totally convinced that his bike was REALLY a two stroke. Wasn't following much of a pattern, and probably wasn't jetted anywhere close (obnoxious aftermarket pipe, and didn't look like he took much care of the bike... so how much work would he have done?) Anyway, I rolled my bike out of the trailer, got dressed, walked over, and with the guy and all his pals watching started mine first kick. :) Excellent feeling.