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2-strokes on Trails????

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Whats up guys, I have only ridden a dirt bike a few times in the past, and now I am ready to buy a used one, year 2000,2001. The problem is I just dont know which one, a KDX 200 or a MX 2-stroke. I live in Florida, I wont to do some trails, no big jumps and some whoops. Alot of people are telling me around here that a 2-stroke is terrible on trails, while some say that thier just wussies that they love them on trials. Iam new to the sport but I am a adrelene junky and dont wont to get bored with a KDX even thou I never rode one. How is a KDX 200 compared to a MX. Will a MX blow it away on a straight flat drag race. What do you guys think. Thanx for any Advice
Teal
 

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TTR kid is right. On January 1, 2005 all 2 strokes will self destruct. Im glad I own two 4 strokes!
 

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Two Strokes are going no where. Their not being outlawed, but they cannot (currently) meet the stricter emission requirements that will go into effect in 2006. That means they (new models) will be limited to closed course events. Any investment you make in a two stroke today will not be lost, you don't have to put your bike away in 2006, your grandfathered in. Two strokes are great in the woods, will a MX bike kick a KDX in a straight line? You bet! Put them both on a tight trail which the KDX is designed for, different story. A straight flat line you describe is alot more boring than that tight trail in my opinion, you decide on your jollies, however.
 

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My KX works great on tracks and trails.. If you buy one it wont be outlawed or self destruct :silly:
 

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On January 1, 2005 all 2 strokes will self destruct.
:scream: :scream: :scream:

!!!OH MY GOD!!!

If you're a mild adrenalin junkie the KDX will do you fine. If you're a more than average adrenalin junkie the KX would be the route. 250 MX bikes are woods standards around here.
 
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I ride my KX250 ('98) on some pretty tight trails, and I think it does fine. I think I like it better than a KDX (although I haven't ridden one for several years) - it's nice to have more power than necessary because you can open it up quick and have a ton of power. I think it might take a little more work than a KDX because it does have more power on tap, but there is no way I would trade for trails.

Last week I let a friend of mine ride it, he has a street bike but has never been on a dirt bike bigger than an XR80. He was riding pretty well and absolutely loved it - he now wants to sell his street bike and get a dirt bike.

It might take a while longer to get used to the power of an MX 250 as opposed to a KDX, but you will probably enjoy the MX bike more if you ride places other than trails - if you are an adrenaline junkie you will probably want to ride an MX track at some point and the KDX would not be very forgiving there.

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Originally posted by Teal
so, you guys ride your 2-strokes in the trails?
Teal
All the time :) Plus at N8MX says, it's nice too have power on tap.. KDX though are good trail bikes, just depends on what you like and suits your riding..
Rick
 
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I just got back from riding my yz250 at the state ohv park. Rode some on the track then went trail riding. Plenty of power and does great. Its nice having the mx suspension and hp when you need it. I wouldnt go smaller than a 250 and would try for a late model yz with a linear powerband.
 
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Is everyone talking about 250's on the trails. I was really wonting a 125 because I am a beginner rider, and a smaller bike right??
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The exact same physical size! Only the engine, and mounts are different, and quite a few other small little bits and pieces, but side by side there is no difference, i own a rm125, its great but bogs a bit down low in the woods, i would buy a mid 90s 250 mx bike and put a flywheel weight kit on it, that way an earlier bike will hopefully be less costly and will not depreciate as quickly! Have fun and dont worry, the big hype about the power of mx bikes is not as bad as you think. Oh and buy a manual , eric gorrs book and tear her down, when you get her, then youll really start to love it!
 
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About any 2 stroke Kaw would make a good a trail bike. A KDX is ideal for whoops if you ride them fast like the pros but I just rode my 200 on the track for the first time and I think it does pretty good. I'm only 13 at begginer level and I'm not an adreneline junkie. I'm proud to say I didn't crash on my first ride(though inches away).

The KX250 is a bad trail bike(thats what was right behind me and kept me going) but unless you ride trails its not the right bike.

The KX125 is a good trail bike and would be a nice 2nd choice for you. It has less power and less weight making it easier to control and throw though the trails.

KX100 great trail bike w/ bottom and top end if a your 5'6"(like me) and a KDX or KX125 is too big.

KX500-power/torque monster-maybe in a few years:)

Other 2 strokes are the KTM EXC's esp. the 200 and 250.

Get your 2 stroke now because dooms day comes in 2006. Once you have you 2 stroke they can't take it away from you. You can't buy one even from another country anymore either. I really don't think the government can do it but we'll see.
 
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Considering your level I'd strongly consider a KDX. It'll rip if you want it to but be very manageable in the woods. 125's are pretty difficult to ride on tight trails and hills. They require a lot of clutch work, a skill you're not born with as a beginner. A KDX won't limit your riding or speed for a Long time, if ever so I wouldn't worry about it "hanging" with MX bikes. It's probably faster than a 125 IMO but requires a lot less maintenance. I'd say KDX all the way! If I had had a second choice I guess it would be a 250 MX bike, just ride it gingerly...
 
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The absolute best beginner trail bike made is the kdx200. Nothing compares. You can start off stock and gradually make it faster and faster to suit your style. me and my brother both started off on kdx200s and im very glad that i didn't buy an mx bike first. The kdx is way better than a 125 on trails, you can have as much as 10ftlbs of torque more than a 125. and you can feel it. Unless you are going to race, buy a 200. my brother now has a 01 kx125 and I have a 00kx250, because we are way more advanced and going to start racing. I miss my kdx a lot but I hope kawi makes a clean version in the future. No thumper can deliver the power, reliability, fun factor, and price all in one like a kdx can. You can't go wrong buying a kdx!:)