HajiWasAPunk
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rushy08 said:Giving a more wealthy person a larger fine is extremely unfair. If Bob down the road earns 20k a year, then he earns 20k a year. If John earns 100k a year, then he earns 100k a year. Each person has worked to get to that salary, and cleeary (in most instances) John has worked harder than BobIn order to earn more money. John should not have to pay more money for a fine than Bob, as this demotes Bob as a person, giving him less human value than John.
Of course the government tries to encourage/discourage behaviors through taxation. If you act this way, you get a deduction. But if you act that way, you don't. Want to reduce smoking? Add a tobbacco tax. Want to encourage homeownership instead of renting? Deductions! Every single tax and dedution is designed to encourage or discourage some sort of action or behavior.HajiWasAPunk said:Taxes, lol, are not a punishment (insert your IRS joke here) but a necessity. We're not trying to discourage a particular behavior based on them.
Exactly ... there is no tax law passed to NOT increase income.motometal said:is the government REALLY trying to reduce smoking? If there was no more smoking, where would the tax $$$ come from to replace current tobacco tax $$$?
"99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name."robwbright said:Regardless, I think you guys will find this interesting -
Filthy_McNasty said:Of course the government tries to encourage/discourage behaviors through taxation. If you act this way, you get a deduction. But if you act that way, you don't. Want to reduce smoking? Add a tobbacco tax. Want to encourage homeownership instead of renting? Deductions! Every single tax and dedution is designed to encourage or discourage some sort of action or behavior.
But this is straying from the point. Unequal punishments based on income are unfair, period. Where do you draw the line? Which punishments for which crimes should be equal, and which ones should be based on a person's income? And what about basing the punishments on status instead? And who will decide all of these inequities?
I will always be consistant. Any punishment for any crime should always be applied equaly to all offenders, regardless of race, religion, income, blahblahblah...That's at the very foundation of what this country was created on. Equal treatment for all under the law. To suggest anything else is Un-American.
So you are an advocate of "unequal treatment under the law", then...HajiWasAPunk said:If you put a millionare and a welfare recipient in jail for 45 days, they've received equal punishment. If you fine them both $200 they haven't. I'm for equal punishment and this isn't equal. Taxes are paid as a percent of income, why can't punishments be done that way? By making it a fixed amount for both, you've made it affordable to break the law for some.
Filthy_McNasty said:So you are an advocate of "unequal treatment under the law", then...
Filthy_McNasty said:Maybe the welfare recipient should get off his ass and develop some marketable job skills so $200 won't break his pocketbook...just a thought.
What for this time was she "sick" again?kawicam250 said:saw a glimpse of the news this morning, Paris Hilton is out again!
I believe this is when she was supposed to get out of jailkawicam250 said:saw a glimpse of the news this morning, Paris Hilton is out again!
I thought that it was supposed to be 45 days, and I heard somewhere that the stayed 23.XRpredator said:I believe this is when she was supposed to get out of jail
FruDaddy said:I thought that it was supposed to be 45 days, and I heard somewhere that the stayed 23.
Anyway, why does everybody really care whether or not she's in jail (unless you live in the Beverly Hills area where your life may be in danger when she tries to drive)? She'll be back to her old self by next week, because she doesn't know any better.
Ol'89r said:She served 21 days I believe.
I get most of my celeb info from the TVGuide channel while I'm finding out what's on, a little of it catches my ear. I am sorry to hear that you share the same road as her, because I don't believe for a minute that she has changed. I expect that she has said exactly what her publicist said that she should say.Ol'89r said:She served 21 days I believe. That was the term with good behavior. And FruDaddy, some of us do drive on the same streets as her.
She said the jail time taught her a lesson. She said she is changing her lifestyle and going to find new friends to hang out with. Weither or not this happens will remain to be seen but, it sounds like her time in the slammer got her attention.
At least she knows now that she is not above the law.
FruDaddy said:What can I say, I see the worst in celebrities. And I still don't believe that she's really worth the attention that she gets.
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