kdx 200 wont start
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Sorry, you didn't provide sufficient information for any sort of helpful response. I can tell you that you need three things for it to start. Fuel, air, and a properly timed spark. One of these three things is obviously missing. I have no idea which one it is...
Got any background info on the bike? When was the last time it ran, and what was changed since then?
Got any background info on the bike? When was the last time it ran, and what was changed since then?
dirt bike dave
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Did the bike die in the middle of the ride, you replaced the coild, and has not worked right since?
or, is it hard to start when cold?
or, is it hard to start when cold?
dirt bike dave
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And you can have fuel, air, a properly timed spark and compression, and it still may not start if the reeds are bad, lol.
But with bad reeds, the problem usually gets worse gradually. In the OP's case, we may have an instance of no-start all of a sudden, though he still has spark. Could be a sheared woodruff key on the flywheel? Just spitballing - need more info as julian said.
But with bad reeds, the problem usually gets worse gradually. In the OP's case, we may have an instance of no-start all of a sudden, though he still has spark. Could be a sheared woodruff key on the flywheel? Just spitballing - need more info as julian said.
dirt bike dave
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I agree, but he said it's getting spark, so I'm guessing he means it is not firing but it is spinning over.
Could be something simple like water in the fuel/float bowl, or a bad plug (they can spark outside but still be weak).
Could be something simple like water in the fuel/float bowl, or a bad plug (they can spark outside but still be weak).
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I'd say muffler bearings as a joke, but these days two of my bikes *do* have muffler bearings (the KDX with the KIPS assembly, and the Buell Ulysses with the exhaust valve).
And I don't think it's his kips assembly.
And I don't think it's his kips assembly.
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You guys are mean!
You can have air, fuel, a properly timed spark, compression, a non snapped powerband, good reeds, a fully intact woodruff key, a good flux capacitor, your induction magnifier nut torqued it to 35 ft/lbs and you can even have the exhaust plug removed (thanks for that one sr5bidder) and it still wont start coz the gas is 3yrs old and your kill switch is faulty.
Please supply some symptoms Mr 1990KDX, other than it wont start. What have you tried?
You can have air, fuel, a properly timed spark, compression, a non snapped powerband, good reeds, a fully intact woodruff key, a good flux capacitor, your induction magnifier nut torqued it to 35 ft/lbs and you can even have the exhaust plug removed (thanks for that one sr5bidder) and it still wont start coz the gas is 3yrs old and your kill switch is faulty.
Please supply some symptoms Mr 1990KDX, other than it wont start. What have you tried?
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it has fuel, compression 185 psi , spark, air. the gas is about two-three months old. it is 25 degrees during the day so i put heaters next to it for 3 hours and it still would not start .i kick it over about 100 times. i noticed that there is not a gasket on the exhaust pipe and it leaks when i kick it over
dirt bike dave
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Sounds like you may have some condensation in the float bowl or in the gas tank.
I would drain the float bowl and fuel tank, then get some fresh gas and a new spark plug.
Here is my drill for starting a hard to start bike:
Turn the gas on and lay the bike on its side for 10 seconds - you want to see fuel running out the over flow tubes for at least a few seconds.
Pick the bike up and turn the choke on.
Kick it over SLOWLY a few times to prime the cylinder.
Find top dead center by moving the kickstarter gently - it will get slightly harder to move as you approach TDC. Just as the resistance eases, the piston is at TDC.
Put your right hand on the master cylinder so you don't give it any gas (some bikes do like a tiny bit of throttle on cold start, but you don't want any more than that).
Return the kicker to the top and KICK as hard as you can. If no luck, return to TDC and try again. (kicking from TDC lets the piston build up the maximum amount of speed before the next compression stroke).
Technique can make a big difference.
I would drain the float bowl and fuel tank, then get some fresh gas and a new spark plug.
Here is my drill for starting a hard to start bike:
Turn the gas on and lay the bike on its side for 10 seconds - you want to see fuel running out the over flow tubes for at least a few seconds.
Pick the bike up and turn the choke on.
Kick it over SLOWLY a few times to prime the cylinder.
Find top dead center by moving the kickstarter gently - it will get slightly harder to move as you approach TDC. Just as the resistance eases, the piston is at TDC.
Put your right hand on the master cylinder so you don't give it any gas (some bikes do like a tiny bit of throttle on cold start, but you don't want any more than that).
Return the kicker to the top and KICK as hard as you can. If no luck, return to TDC and try again. (kicking from TDC lets the piston build up the maximum amount of speed before the next compression stroke).
Technique can make a big difference.
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First things first then. Drain carb and put fresh gas in it (if it's cold it may have condensation in it). I'd probably pull the carb appart and give it a clean too. Making sure the pilot jet isn't blocked etc and also making sure there is no water in it.
When you kick it over I would not expect it to leak out of the exhaust joint unless the exhaust is blocked or restricted in some way. If it has got a bad joint I would expect it to leak when it's running though. I'd be checking to make sure the exhast is not blocked in some way. Also, put a gasket on it.
Oh, and put a new plug in it, no harm in that.
Then start checking the other things mention except the stooopid ones.
So, check:
1. Woodruff key on fly wheel to make sure the timing is still good.
2. Reeds.
3. As it's not a newish bike, check to make sure the motor/carb boot isn't perished and sucking in heaps of air.
There's somewhere to start from anyway.
Re: post above DBD wrote that while I was writing this, then I posted it and Dave had said it too. I didn't copy, promise.
When you kick it over I would not expect it to leak out of the exhaust joint unless the exhaust is blocked or restricted in some way. If it has got a bad joint I would expect it to leak when it's running though. I'd be checking to make sure the exhast is not blocked in some way. Also, put a gasket on it.
Oh, and put a new plug in it, no harm in that.
Then start checking the other things mention except the stooopid ones.
So, check:
1. Woodruff key on fly wheel to make sure the timing is still good.
2. Reeds.
3. As it's not a newish bike, check to make sure the motor/carb boot isn't perished and sucking in heaps of air.
There's somewhere to start from anyway.
Re: post above DBD wrote that while I was writing this, then I posted it and Dave had said it too. I didn't copy, promise.
Bingo.1990kdx said:
+1Joburble said:
My KLX450 sat for four months. I'd put Sta-Bil'ized fuel in the tank but that obviously did not reach the carb's float bowl.
Yesterday I tried to start it, to no avail. I drained the carb (fuel smelled like varnish), put fresh gas in the carb, and it fired right up.
Moral: modern gasoline formulations do NOT sit well for long.
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1990kdx said:
leaks what? air: then check for pluged up exhuast sytem
fuel: then your crank case is full of premix
i'd take the tank off and pour the gas from it into the riding mover, drain the carb, then take the spark plug out, take the flywheel cover off,use my electric drill set on counter clockwise and 17mm socket and spin the engine over to clear any premix in the cases.
then take the exhuast of and check it for blockage, put new gas in and new plug (if you buy your plugs at the auti parts store you can get 2 for the price of one at a motorcycle shop)
my best guess is that you have flooded your engine and fouled your plug.
second guess is that you didn't do a good job when repairing the coil and messed something up.
If the exhaust is leaking air it should fire at least. It'll run like crap but youd get it to turn over.
Try and take any variables out of the equasion and eliminate the easy stuff first: Clean carb, fresh gas, and what everyone else before me said.
Let us know how it goes....
Try and take any variables out of the equasion and eliminate the easy stuff first: Clean carb, fresh gas, and what everyone else before me said.
Let us know how it goes....
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