super rat

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Nice try but that is SX. One thing we all can agree on is the nationals rule! I dont know what sky your looking at but its grey with snow coming out of it.
 

Pit_Monkey

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Block passing, etc. is part of the sport. Targeting someone just to take them out isn't.
very well said. thats the point that most people dont see. if you watch the pheonix race, youll notice the difference. when you block someone off and make them stop thats ok but when you smack into someone on purpose and they run off the track thats totally different.

Nothing like seeing them together on a track to settle the issue. This year is so awesome because so many people have stepped it up and the title isn't a sure bet for anyone in either class. Makes it fun for us.

deffinitly will.:confused:
 

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After having been to four of the first five SX's, here's my take:
Bubba is fast. Bubba is aggressive. Some of his passes and choices are IMO, at least reckless and possibly dangerous. He's had to bang with the likes of Brandes, Sellards, Preston, and one things for sure: there is no back-down in this kid. He seems to give as well as he takes and when the dust settles, he gets the results. Langston is fast - no doubt - but it's going to take a lot more than the tough talk to beat Bubba. I've never seen anyone so focused on winning from wherever he is in the pack. The speed he's able to generate is so clearly superior that as he matures in the sport, and if he stays healthy, he will definitely raise the bar for everyone.

As to him personally, we met him in San Diego and he was very approachable and seemed to be a genuinely nice kid. I guess time will tell what type of PR ratings he'll get.
 

Okiewan

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I dont know what sky your looking at but its grey with snow coming out of it.
Grasshopper... just as one should look past the obvious, the sky is in fact blue above the clouds.

:confused:
 

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But Master, beyond the blue is the infinite blackness of space-The Final Frontier.
 

JPIVEY

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I don't know guys, I think the biggest threat to Stewart is Stewart, he needs to settle down a bunch
 

CR226

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when you block someone off and make them stop thats ok but when you smack into someone on purpose and they run off the track thats totally different.
Naw, they call that AX!:confused:

It should be a very interesting mx season. I dont believe that the one sx race in Vegas will provide much more than a quick look at things to come. It is a lot easier to make up a poor start in a 30 minute moto than a 15 lap sx.

Somebody tell me again why a person from Florida is racing the WEST anyway?
 

JPIVEY

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Originally posted by CR226

Somebody tell me again why a person from Florida is racing the WEST anyway?


Langston Lives in Calif and racing the eastern set :think
 

wardy

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hmmm

i dont' get to see any of this stuff on the tube since i am in the sticks and don't have time to watch anyway. But i like to think that rubbin is racin. Plus if it gets a little rough then as long as its on the ground (not over a 90' triple) then paybacks can be a little interesting. In this day and age we have developed into a "touch me not" racing mentality.
I don't advocate being nasty, but lets face it at that pro level i would be disappointed if riders didn't "go for it".

Its part of the sport. One that if it wasn't there would bore me to tears


wardy
 

KXKen

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Originally posted by JPIVEY
I don't know guys, I think the biggest threat to Stewart is Stewart, he needs to settle down a bunch

I agree. Also if he keeps pulling block passes like the one with Sellards he's not going to make to many friends. I'm not sure if it was clean or not but I've heard plenty of people around here complain about Brown passes that looked cleaner (to me) than that one did.

It took me back to the time that RC made that pass on MC and then let him go by in the next corner. Not sure what the reason for that was but it sure looked like a class move to me.
 

CR226

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Langston Lives in Calif and racing the eastern set

Yes and Sellards is from Ohio and in the west and Antunez and Schnell are in the east and so on and so on. I am sure the riders don't pick what series they race so much as their bosses do. I think that maybe the time has come for a 16 race 125 sx series. I don't think that the east/west series isn't what it originally started out to be anymore.

I think that Kawi put Stewart in the west thinking he had a better chance at a championship. It seems like the teams are sending their best to do battle in the east.

oh ya, don't forget about what Langston did to Bobby Bonds at Hangtown(?) last year. He put him down good. The outdoors should be awesome this year.
 

Okiewan

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Speaking of Jeremy... he looked a LOT better at Anaheim 8,000 (on ESPN today). Seems that he rode a lot of the main more relaxed. Maybe he's on his way back to the front?

Bubba is a 16 year old rookie under a TON of pressure to perform. Give him a season to get the bugs worked out :) He looks to have the ability to be one of the greats. Time will tell.
 

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I'm surely not positive about this - but wasn't Langston supposed to run the West and then switched over to the East just before the season started ? I thought I had read that somewhere.

Hey - nothing like some drama - we all benefit from it. It makes it all SO much more interesting. The outdoor series is gonna be unreal.
 

jfisher304

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Langston was going to run the west until he hurt his shoulder in the Nationals last year. The he switched to the East to give it more time to heal. Although he did say he might ride a 250 at Dallas and Houston.
 

osheen

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Back when the 125 SX thing came about the rider had to race the series in which side of the country they lived. Didn't take long for the factories and riders long to figure out that all they had to do is come up with an address on the other coast if that's the series they wanted to ride. After a while the AMA bagged the rule, just pick a side and run it..........Either that or they don't enforce the rule like so many others they choose to ignore.
 

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I think I would be alittle arrogant too if I was at the same level as Stewart is at his age. I think the most arrogant rider is Mike Craig. In the Canadian MX season he always had excuses. One time he said he lost the lead because his front number plate was hanging down and he was afraid it was going to get caught in his wheel so he slowed down! He never once blamed himself for anything. He even said he lost because the Canadian riders were blocking him cause they wanted the Canadian rider to win. What a baby.:silly:
 

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My two cents as a father...My hats off to James Stewarts Dad. Also to the way Team green has brought this very talented kid along. Bottom line is Bubba is a talent. His riding speaks for it self. As far a arrogance is concerned, I've read all of Gerald Langstons columns and if there is arrogance its that entire Langston Clan. Its arrogant to think that Bubba should treat Grant any different than any other rider. As far as US performances are concerned, Grant is an Almost Winner and so far Bubba has been a Complete winner in every class he has raced in. He's on his way to a West Coast SX Championship. He's faster by far than all the guys out there. Grant is already feeling the heat and the out door season hasn't even started. His best move is to shut his mouth and focus on riding. I Watched the Indy SX and I think Grant is going to almost win yet again.

I would also pay a little attention when a guy like RC says the only guy who can hang with him on a 125 is Bubba.....(As was posted before)...Fact is RC is faster than both Brown and Langston. He's had a little time with all of them. He would know.

It's going to be a great 125 Out door series. Much more interesting than the 250's. I agree with another earlier post is the only thing that can hurt James Stewart is James Stewart. If he can keep his cool and just keep doing his thing at his own pace and not let the pressure push him out of his performance envelope...he's a multi time National Champion waiting to happen. And I'm going to enjoy watching the talented kid knock off the spoiled brats like Langston and the california pierced ear crowd in the process.:debil:

( Notice that those hard working kids from the East-South East have slowly taken over the top positions of this sport? RC, K-Dub, Tim Ferry, Lusk, Brown, Pastrana, now Bubba....what happened to California? I think it got too hard and they are off playing show games like Free Style!):p

LOL
 

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( Notice that those hard working kids from the East-South East have slowly taken over the top positions of this sport? RC, K-Dub, Tim Ferry, Lusk, Brown, Pastrana, now Bubba....what happened to California? I think it got too hard and they are off playing show games like Free Style!)

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Maybe Calif is waiting for the entire USA to add all their 250 supercross wins together in order to pass one rider from there. Only RC of the riders you mentioned has had any impact in the 250 Class. Numerous 125 champions have faltered when they moved up to 250s. I will admit RC is the real deal, but Chad Reed should not be over looked for the up and comers.
 

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So if you guys raced in the same series together, you’d be right there to go, as Art Eckman would say, “bar to bar” with James?

Langston replies:
Yeah, definitely. I’m not taking anything away from James because he is a great rider. But there is going to be a lot of competition between me, Mike Brown and Reed in the East. James is fortunate he isn’t in the East Coast class because between myself, Brown and Reed, he wouldn’t get away with anything. No doubt about it. I mean, in the West, nobody did anything back to James until Anaheim III! If he tried any of that on me, it would be the biggest mistake of his life.

Pretty good stuff if you ask me, and probably very true ! :p
 

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Actally my view of the 250 class includes the outdoor series. For that matter I couldn't care less what happens in the supercross series. I appreciate the MC thing and his dominance of SX but I follow SX because there is nothing else of interest. And those French guys and those from the South are doing quite well.....oh yeh looks like they are even doing well in SX now. Times are changing.;)
 

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Bubba is something else. He is amazing on the bike. Just watch his style in the air and through the turns. He moves that bike under him like nothing else. Makes me think of DV a little the way he is all over the bike. And he is pretty mature for his age I think. He runs 259 in honor of his friend who is paralyzed. After each race interview, He dedicates it to Tony Haines....I am excited for this kid, hope he can keep healthy and on two wheels!;)
 

Brianc

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I think that Kawi put Stewart in the west thinking he had a better chance at a championship. It seems like the teams are sending their best to do battle in the east.

I think that Kawi put Stewart in the west thinking he had a better chance at a championship. It seems like the teams are sending their best to do battle in the east.

In an interview, Stewart said he wanted to start in the west for the points and the experience. Sounds like his choice. We saw him race in Phx, He pulled an agreesive block pass in the qualifier and when the emcee asked him, he replied that it was payback for the other guy's aggressive blocks in another race. The emcee waited for Stewart to go back to the pits, then commented that if Stewart continued with that attitude, the officials could/would suspend him. It's clear that he has enough control to ride nice or not, he just dishes out what other riders do to him. Got to admit, he is FAST. He brings alot of excitement to the sport, He's definitely an asset to have.
 

Brianc

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I disagree budda, Langston is by far the fastest guy in the 125 class.

Not likely. Stewart's lap times are faster than most of the 250 class rider's times. Compare lap times, they don't lie. He's consistently 2 seconds or more faster than anyone else. If he limits his crashes to one per race ( as in Phx ), he wins. He is amazing how he handles the bike. Consistently triples the big jumps, no one else does that in 125, and most of the 250 riders don't. He's going to set a bunch of records.
 
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