Pros how do they do it....????

HAzE

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This is two questions...First one, they pros have a ton of corner speed and when they get to the top of a jump, they totally let off. Not even a blip or anything. Explain how they can do this without endoing and sometimes having to use rear brake to bring front end down.

Also, how do they do such a great whip. I can jump basicly everything at my track now, except for the real triple. And I was wondering how could I do a whip like that. Looks hard, I'll do a search. But while I'm posting , might as well ask right? Thanks, later.
 

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haze

its called practice and time on a bike. those guys have rode so much they can tell you or show you exactly what that bike will do in almost any instance.
I am glad you realized that corner speed is the determining factor in racing ability. if a rider can keep up that speed he will go a long way. as far as whips go, I would practice on being a better rider before practicing getting out of shape. since that probably will come with your riding time anyway!

just a comment here but isn't it really a true art form to watch a rider blow through a corner and then hit a triple or big jump and just do it with momentum? I mean think of the effort and dedication it takes for a rider to
execute that riding skill on every lap and every corner not to mention every jump, then put it all together for a 30 min moto. totally cool
 

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I really love to watch the kids ride mx. I was watching a 11-13 80 class the other day and there was a kid who was totaly dialed into the corners. This kid was amazing to watch. His class was pretty fast, but the rest were no comparison to this kid who would attack each curve deeper than anyone else dared to, and he had mucho roost flying out of each turn. This kid seemed to not even let off the throttle, yet he kept the bike in perfect position every turn. He was effective on the flats as he was the berms. He completely destroyed his compitition each moto.
During the final, I was watching this kid amaze folks.....at the finish triple this kid does a heel clicker to the pleasure of the crowd. A little old lady was next to me and she commented: "Wow, he's a pretty fast rider isn't he?" I told her I thought the kid was destined to be a great rider. She then told me he was her grandson and she had never seen him race before. lol...I let her know that everyone on this track envys his riding ability, Everyone!
 

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little 80s.....

THose kids fly, but they've been riding since they were able to walk. I have been riding for about a year. But I haven't been riding the track for a year. It'll be a year in a couple of months though. I haven't been riding this bike for a year, I got it around the middle of the school year. Didn't start riding it untill a couple of months ago. Yeah, I know corner speed is everything, but it's hard. I don't have much brakes left on my front, or rear. So it's hard to slide the rear to where it needs to be. Whips, well they look really cool. And since I'm jumping everything, they only really thing I can do is get faster. And try doing whips. Well thanks for the replies. Later.
 
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Haze i'll better the question

ok on sunday i was at a pro national. and i noticed somethign that really bugs me, even when i watch any amateurs that are good.
this is the thing, they maintain so much corner speed and then right before the jump or lip they totally get off the throttle, but still FLY through the air SMOOTHLY and clear everything, sometimes even having to hit the rear brake to bring the front end down.

ok so now were talking me, i go to the track and let off the throttle on the jumps the SLIGHTEST bit and my back end is right up in the air, and i'll almost go over the bars when i land, but if i keep on the throttle strong all the way up the jump its smooth.

i just dont see how these people can get right off the gas on the lip, but still sail, i can see that if their going that fast they make the jump, but i dont see how there front end doesnt come down the slightest bit.

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It's simple.
If you are on the throttle, you keep your weight forward.
If you are coasting a jump, get your weight back.

Now you do need to be careful about the jump type. Kickers need to be jumped on the power, but most of the jumps with good sized ramps can be coasted as long as you shift your weight back before you leave the ground.
 
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i saw pros hitting a huge kicker stepdown totally off throttle, but with a high speed corner right before the jump.
 
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can nats

I was at the same nats in Blackstock. Excellent race huh? The kids on the 60's were great!
I noticed the same thing on the jumps. Gets me how they do it! They sure can ride tho!:scream:
 
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ya...

ya the TOP 2 kids on 60's and 65's were amazing! did u watch any races from the grandstand near the big step down kicker? those kids were going bigger off that than the pros, everyone was going nuts, then thye started busting heel clickers and no footer. :scream:
 
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Originally posted by Reeko
Kickers need to be jumped on the power, but most of the jumps with good sized ramps can be coasted as long as you shift your weight back before you leave the ground.
Another tip on KICKERS: drag the rear brake. It will keep the rear wheel from kicking you in the @ss.:p
 
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re: kickers

Most pros can coast over kickers because they aren't actually hitting the kicker, they are already in the air before they get to it, it's called pre-jumping. Watch closely and you'll see.
 
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I'm serious.. If we're talking about the same kind of obstacle, like a kicker on the face of a jump.. Ever notice how McGrath would stay low in the air, in relation to the other guys? Prejumping. Less hang time means lower lap times.. Being shot straight up doesn't improve your lap times. Watch in slow motion or something if you can, it's true.
 
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Preloading makes you jump higher and farther on jumps. You preload it so when you hit the lip it launches you! . OR Preload before the lip and while the suspension is rebounding you hit the lip.(which is what CAM is talking about, I think:think) This will soak up more of the impact and not rebound as hard. But it can throw you off balance.
McGrath uses a BMX technique(which he brought to MX) He leans way forward and pushes down on the bars at lift off. This way he keeps the momentum going forward, not up.!:p