tried the ti and SS chain ,got to say was the worst waste of money i did in a while,i do mostly mud and sandy areas,got lest than 300 miles on the set up and totally destroyed everything,first the front sprocket lost a few teeth ,then threw a few rollers on the chain ,then tore off all the teeth on the rear,got back with sidewinder ,sent back the whole setup(which cost me more money)after they inspected it they said the best they could do was replace the front for free and give me a discount on the chain and rear,told they i didn't want another ti rear instead i wanted the harden steel.i was already out of over 300 bucks and still didn't have a drive system,so i went ahead and spent another 100 .the old saying you get what you pay for wasn't true in this case