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>A Chip ID That's Only Skin-Deep
> Biotech: Firm plans to sell implantable devices that
>can store a variety of data about you.
>
>
>By DAVID STREITFELD, Times Staff Writer
>
>
>By DAVID STREITFELD -- A Florida company is poised to
>become the first to sell microchips designed to be
>implanted into human beings, an achievement that opens
>the door to new systems of medical monitoring and ID
>screening.
>
>Implantable chips have long been discussed by
>technologists and denounced by those who object on
>religious grounds or fear their use by a totalitarian
>state. But the company that did the test, Applied
>Digital Solutions of Palm Beach, said the specter of
>terrorism is shifting attitudes. The direct union of
>man and computer is no longer dismissed out of hand.
>
>
>"The bottom line is, when people are trying to regain
>their peace of mind, they're more open to new
>approaches," said Keith Bolton, Applied Digital's
>chief technology officer.
>
>Applied Digital, which had revenue of $165 million
>last year, has made its mark by selling electronic
>chips that help farmers keep tabs on the health and
>safety of their cows and other livestock. The company
>also makes a monitoring bracelet for Alzheimer
>patients, so that families can use global positioning
>satellite systems to help find loved ones who might
>have wandered off.
>
>Now the company sees a market among those who have
>artificial organs and limbs. These folks will have up
>to 60 words of relevant medical information implanted
>on chips. If the patients are brought unconscious into
>an emergency room, technicians equipped with special
>scanners will easily decipher the body's internal
>topography.
>
>The chips would need approval from the Food and Drug
>Administration, which Applied Digital said it expects
>to receive by midyear. The company said it already has
>secured permission from the Federal Communications
>Commission--necessary because the chips use radio
>frequencies.
>
>Regulatory approval is not necessary overseas,
>however. Applied Digital expects to be selling chips
>in South America in about 90 days. One potential
>market is kidnap targets, who could use these chips in
>combination with global positioning devices.
>
>Other potential applications would put the chips in
>the role of an ultimate ID, capable of performing many
>of the roles that are performed by keys and ATM cards.
>
>"I'd be shocked if within 10 years you couldn't get a
>chip implanted that would unlock your house, start
>your car and give you money," said Chris Hables Gray,
>an associate professor of computer science at the
>University of Great Falls in Montana and author of
>"The Cyborg Citizen."
>
>English cyberneticist Kevin Warwick won considerable
>notoriety three years ago by implanting an electronic
>transmitter above his left elbow. The implant opened
>doors and switched on lights at his British University
>of Reading offices. He now is working on experiments
>in which his nervous system is linked with a computer.
>
>If Warwick is the equivalent of the mad genius who
>injects himself with a new vaccine to see whether it
>works, the Applied Digital volunteer, 55-year-old New
>Jersey surgeon Richard Seelig, sees himself as simply
>a consultant thrust by events into an unexpected role.
>
>Seelig had been working with Applied Digital since
>early this year. He expected to do a traditional
>scientific study, calling for volunteers who wanted to
>test out the role of chip implants. Then came the
>terrorist attacks Sept. 11. Five days later, Seelig
>injected himself with the chips.
>
>"I was so compelled by what had happened," he said in
>a phone interview. "One of the potential applications
>suddenly jumped out--the ability to have a secure form
>of identification--and I felt I had to take the next
>step."
>
>So he injected one chip into his left forearm; the
>other went in his right leg, next to his artificial
>hip. Each could hold several sentences of information,
>although at the moment they just contain serial
>numbers.
>
>"There's no deformity of the skin," Seelig said. "I
>feel just the same as I did before."
>
>The chips that will be marketed next year are not true
>tracking devices. For one thing, they have no internal
>power source. Their data can't be read without a
>scanner.
>
>The next generation of body chips, which transmits
>signals from a distance, is still several years away.
>At the moment, this kind of tracking device would have
>to be about 1 inch by 1 inch, raising the likelihood
>of a rather unsightly bulge.
>
>Applied Digital has a market value of 95 million. Its
>shares closed unchanged Tuesday at 38 cents on Nasdaq.
>
>No one interviewed Tuesday questioned that Applied
>Digital had done what it said it did, but not everyone
>thought there would be a huge market.
>
>"It's a glorified bar code, and there are not a lot of
>people who are going to want it," said Michael Nova,
>the founder of Graviton, a La Jolla company developing
>wireless machine-to-machine communication systems.
>Using such a chip as a built-in credit card, Nova
>said, would require a great deal of work.
>
>"Stores would have to get the right software; credit
>card companies would have to want to do it," Nova
>said. "At the moment, this is an intriguing idea that
>doesn't have a market."
>
>Which isn't necessarily going to keep it from being
>popular, said futurist Paul Saffo.
>
>"As some people wring their hands about the invasion
>of privacy and civil liberty, a whole other generation
>is going to go, 'Cool! I've always wanted to embed
>technology in my body.' It's going to be fashion,"
>Saffo said. "One sure sign that teenagers will love it
>is if it terrifies their parents."
 

oldguy

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All my dogs are chipped right now but only because very few people can understand them when they get lost and give their phone numbers.
I had heard about this a few months back and the reasoning was the implant would be done as you entered the armed forces. they figured if the worst happened they could ID your body gaster than DNA.
 

Maru16

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i'll pass. i dunno, i mean what if this were to get into the wrong hands?
From the way i see it, technology is getting more and more complexed that sooner or later, after the electric cars, after the mobile phones that you can access the internet from, and after the high-tech other stuff, we'll have a computer the size of your palm, and when you type a person's name in the search engine, that person can be tracked wherever on earth that person is via microchip.:scream:

:confused:
 

ZOOK250

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i was watching a show on proficies one night . they mentioned revalations from the bible saying that in the end times everyone will have the mark of the beast on them. maybe what the mark is , is really a micro chip. eventually you wont even be able to buy food unless you are implanted. thats scary crap. save up your shot gun ammo and move up into the hills . im not into the bible or 1984 to much but i can see this happening in the future.
 

DaddGoneMadd

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I debated this subject with a man that I respect, and is also very religious. His answer was very surprising to me. He said that an implant(marking of the beast) does not scare him, because God said that it would be so, and nothing we could do would change it. Edit/delete this post if you see fit, because I realize I'm treading the religion line, but you brought the subject up.
 

Vic

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Quick! Close the can! :scream:
 

rollingp

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chips

BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING.
QUESTION EVERYTHING, TRUST NO ONE,

THE FEDS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE CONSTITUTION ABOLISHED.
 

BunduBasher

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This is where technology is going, pretty cool stuff, scary too.

I would like to use this technology for my kids, and have it removed when they are older, like when they leave home ! - would be a great way for monitoring criminals or ex-cons on parole. Big Brother will love this stuff. I can just see the day coming when the DMV implants chips in our cars and bikes, great for security, not great for us speedsters !

Add to this, hey, how about implanting all the foreign visitors to this country, myself included, then the INS, FBI etc can monitor the whereabouts of any alien in the country, check when you get onto a plane, where you eat, visit etc - waaaay coool ! not ! :think
 
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XRpredator

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Turnin' me into one o' them dang ol' black helicopter new world order gubmint fearin' rednecks, Itellyouwhat!

Just another step in the wrong direction . . . :mad:
 

Patman

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Aluminum foil XRP!
 

380EXCman

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and when you type a person's name in the search engine, that person can be tracked wherever on earth that person is via microchip.

Wow, then everone could see I was either at work or at home. Whooooo scary.....

Seriously though I will also pass on the chip injection.

I do like the kids (until they are 18) and criminal ideas though.
 

dirt bike dave

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The potential for abuse of future technology certainly exists, and we are wise to be wary of it. The good features will be 'sold' to us while the Big Brother aspects will be concealed.

For example, let us say that in the name of air quality, auto manufacturers are required to install onboard exhaust sniffers to measure your car's exhaust and report via satellite to Big Brother. Too much pollutants - Big Brother shuts your car down. They could also remotely shut your car down if you report it stolen.

Sounds great - better air quality and theft protection. But in exchange for these 'positives', you allow your car to be tracked everywhere you go. Also, the bank can shut it down if their computer says you are behind on your payments, or your insurance has lapsed, or you've got too many parking tickets, or someone falsely accuses you of a crime,or if a camera at an intersection says you ran the red, etc...
 

Jonala

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Originally posted by BunduBasher
I can just see the day coming when the DMV implants chips in our cars and bikes, great for security, not great for us speedsters !

It's already being done by some if not all of the car rental companies. A few months ago there a customer was suing the rental car company for overcharging him $100.

Turns out the company had a chip in the car that recorded his top speed. They charged him for going over the speed limit, abusing the car.

Big Brother is watching. Here in S.F bay area all lighted intersections now have cameras. Lets see how long the so called medical ethicist's say it's OK to chip children.:mad:
 

Patman

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Is that just a hat or full body coverage?

Whatever works for ya'. Personally I save the full body coverage for special occasions.....doh sorry that's the whip cream I was thinking of :eek:
 
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