anyone using a fastline front brake hose?

Joined
May 30, 2002
Messages
494
Likes
0
#1
i have a dumb question, but which end is the top and which end is th bottom? is the skinny end the top or the fat end? also, do the fastline brake hoses for the yamaha's use stock routing or is it like the honda routing?
 

DPW

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 23, 2000
Messages
344
Likes
0
#2
I don't recall which side is up...I "think" the skinny end goes to the brake lever. I installed one on my YZ400 a couple of years ago, but you can order them with the stock routing or the honda style routing.
 
Joined
May 30, 2002
Messages
494
Likes
0
#3
did you have trouble bleeding the brakes after you put it on? is there a certain way you have to bleed a dry hose? i cant get anything pressure at all. im really starting to get mad.
 
Joined
Dec 27, 1999
Messages
216
Likes
0
#4
Get a Mitivac. You'll never have issues with bleeding brakes again. Worth the $30 or so that they cost.
 

Lorin

Lifetime Sponsor
Joined
Jun 25, 1999
Messages
948
Likes
0
#5
I'll second the mitty vac option. Some of the better money I have spent, and I have used it regularly since then. If you dont have that, another way to help get the air out of the line is to open the bleeder valve and let the brake fluid drain through (gravity fed), and then close the valve and bleed. Some people will actually take and hang the complete brake assembly up, and then do the gravity feed (just make sure that you dont let the resovoir get too low. If the top brake cylinder is left open, most air bubbles will eventually work their way up and out of the top.
 
Joined
Apr 21, 2002
Messages
87
Likes
0
#6
I have one with the Honda routing. I noticed a difference with the Fastline and the Honda routing. If you have the Honda line you need to purchase a clamp that mounts on the fork guard. It runs about $14. The skinny end does mount on top. DPW is right, get a vaccum brake bleeder it will save a whole lotta trouble and time. Harbor Freight carries them for around $25.
 
Joined
May 30, 2002
Messages
494
Likes
0
#8
i am going to borrow the vaccum bleeder from work, i work at a texaco station, the bleeder they have is made by a company called phoenix tools i think. the problem i have is i cant get any fluid in the line, the fluid level in the master cyl. isnt going down, is this normal?
 
Joined
May 30, 2002
Messages
494
Likes
0
#9
i still havent had any luck bleeding these brakes. i borrowed the bleeder tool from work and it did nothing. i am not sure if this is concidered a vacuum bleeder or not. this bleeder has a gun with a bottle that holds fluid, then there is a line you connect to the bleeder valve, then you pump fluid up to the master cyl.. i cant get any fluid to go up from the bleeder at all, i had it opened, i connected the tool and tryed to pump the fluid up through but the was too much pressure, i could hardly squeeze the trigger. it eventually went flying off and sprayed fluid everywhere and i gave up. i dont know where to go from here.
 
Joined
Apr 21, 2002
Messages
87
Likes
0
#10
You need to have fluid in the master, hold in the brake lever, have the vaccum bleeder hooked up to the bleeder (make sure it is open), pump the vaccum, make sure you keep fluid in the master so you don't suck in any air. Do this until you get a constant flow of fluid (no air bubbles) into the bleeder container. You should be taking fluid from the master to the bleeder NOT pump fluid up to the master.
 
Joined
May 30, 2002
Messages
494
Likes
0
#11
thanks for responding. i dont think this is a gravity bleeder if am taking fluid from the master cyl. the tool i had did the opposite because i watched them use it on cars at work. a guy on thumper talk told me a way i might try. he said to get a turkey baster and connect it to the bleeder with a vinyl hose, then loosen the bleeder and the upper banjo bolt at the master cyl then pump fluid up through the bleeder to the master cyl, then when fluid starts coming out tighen up the banjo bolt, then bleed the braked like you normally would. im not sure its going to work but ill try. i wish there was somewhere i could buy a gravity bleeder, i dont feel like mail ordering one, im trying to get this bike fixed asap and dont feel like waiting for one to be shipped.
 

BSWIFT

Sponsoring Member<BR>Club Moderator
N. Texas SP
Joined
Nov 25, 1999
Messages
7,898
Likes
23
#12
Are you doing this on the bike?&nbsp; If so, try removing the entire brake system.&nbsp; Compress your brake piston with the reservoir cap removed.&nbsp; Put the brake pads in and use three quarters taped together to replicate your rotor.&nbsp; Clamp your reservoir and lever to a work bench and let the caliper hang.&nbsp; Use a short piece of clear tubing to attach to the bleeder bolt that will reach the floor from your caliper.&nbsp;
Place a half filled brake fluid container on the floor with the tube inside the container.&nbsp; Fill your reservoir, loosen the bleeder bolt, and keep the quarters between the brake pads AND the hose submerged in the container on the floor.&nbsp; Bleed your brakes as you would any type.&nbsp; Keep the reservoir full and try not to overflow the container on the floor.&nbsp; Using a wrench, lightly tap the entire length of hose, this is simular to what a Dr. or nurse might do to a hypodermic surynge.&nbsp;
It sounds like you have some debris in the caliper.&nbsp; You may need to remove the bleeder bolt and check for contamenation.&nbsp; If so, clean and start from scratch.&nbsp;

The purpose for doing this off of the bike is by preference rather than any magical reason.&nbsp; It puts the entire system in view and removes the mess of brake fluid on your bike(it will remove paint!).
 
Joined
Nov 26, 2003
Messages
45
Likes
0
#13
[/QUOTE] i still havent had any luck bleeding these brakes. [/QUOTE]

I had the same frustrating experience the first time I bled my front brake
on a YZ250: No pressure no matter how much I tried to bleed.
The fluid would not even come out.
After noticing that some bubbles would come to the surface of the (open)
master cylinder when I squizzed the lever, I tried the following:
I tied the brake lever with a rubber band in a semi-open position
and went to watch a movie. Nothing scientific about the lever position.
Just enough that I could see bubbles come out.

By the time the movie was over the air had worked out of the system
on its own. So if you are not in a hurry, you might save the $30 or
so a vacuum pump costs. (I would have been better off buying the pump.
I forgot to return the movies I had rented and ended up paying about
that much in late charges :-)

miko.
 
Joined
May 30, 2002
Messages
494
Likes
0
#14
i went back to the place i bought the hose from and they are going to lend me there vacuum bleeder to use. i hope to get this job done once and for all.
 

Zero

Subscriber
Joined
Oct 15, 1999
Messages
100
Likes
0
#15
Kinda late to respond. I put a fast line on my YZ250. Bleeding them took a LONG LONG TIME. I got much arm pump and ankle pump (rear brake) bleeding them. Probably too about 45min - to 1 hour on each end. Yes it sucked. But I eventually got pressure.