RECENT POSTS

Biased Bike Reviews

Joined
Sep 10, 2001
Messages
4
Likes
0
#1
How biased are the bike reviews in mags? I read a review on the '02 CR125 in Motocross action mag saying the engine did not improve from previous years and did not have any bottom end. Later I saw the Honda Profile with Johnny O. about thr CR125 on the ESPN2 mx race from Binghampton 9-9-01 and the Honda rep said that the CR125 had a lot of bottom and top end. With these two conflicting reviews, who do you believe before throwing 5 grand down on the counter?? Or do I change colors?? :(
 

nephron

Dr. Feel Good
Joined
Jun 15, 2001
Messages
2,552
Likes
0
#3
The good news is one of the other mags (MXRacer??) said the new CR125 RIPPED, and had a much improved motor.

Ha. Did you see the b.s. in MXA--the combined kiss-ass review of the YZ125 and YZ250? They're claiming the YZ is the strongest stock 125 they've ever ridden, and had nothing but praise (some reservation about the susp.) for the 250. :silly:

These guys are such idiots, that they don't even realize how OBVIOUS their bias is. How discrete! It's getting to the point where it's laughable. Okay, okay, it's been laughable for a long time.

Unfortunately, I'm so damn addicted to MX stuff, that when I run out of good mags to read, I often turn to newstand issues of MXA. :(

Shame on me! :o
 

Vic

***** freak.
Joined
May 5, 2000
Messages
4,008
Likes
0
#4
I'm absolutely shocked that a company rep would praise his own product. There wouldn't be any bias there, would there?:think :silly:
 
Joined
Feb 10, 2001
Messages
141
Likes
0
#5
As far as MXA is concerned, Yamaha could put a 250F engine on a tricycle and they would still rave about it. From what I've read in Dirt Rider and TWMX, the new Honda is vastly improved. The most consistant complaint is the numberplates are tight for 8 inchers.
 

XRpredator

AssClown SuperPowers
Damn Yankees
Joined
Aug 2, 2000
Messages
13,511
Likes
19
#6
Originally posted by SPAZTIK
I saw the Honda Profile with Johnny O. about thr CR125 . . . and the Honda rep said that the CR125 had a lot of bottom and top end.
Like Vic says.:silly:

Also, Johnny O' has his nose so far up the Leprechaun's, well, you get the picture, that he's gonna say all sorts of wonderful things about Honda now.

I feel another flame coming on . . . :think
 

Gary B.

Subscriber
Joined
Apr 17, 2000
Messages
684
Likes
0
#7
I always enjoy the fact that when any new bike comes out, every mag touts it as though it's the second comming. Then several months later, when the bike is in public hands and the aftermarket stuff starts appearing you see statements like "the XYZ Performance pipe eliminates the pitifully weak top end" or some new suspension kit to fix the "horrible bottomming problem common to this bike".:think
 

marcusgunby

Lifetime Sponsor
Joined
Jan 9, 2000
Messages
6,450
Likes
2
#8
Riders of their new steeds are just as bad:
start of season-bike is THE best thing ever
middle of season-bike has to go to tuners for minor mods+various small gripes about bikes shortcomings
end of season-bike was worst thing ever and will not be buying that brand ever again-at least until MXA says the new model is the dogs gonads.
Its like when you ask a rider about his new bike you are questioning his labido.:D
 

Miltonyz

Sponsoring Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2001
Messages
157
Likes
0
#9
I watched the same segment and was real curious since I read/heard or something to that effect that the 02 motor on the 125 was less then stellar.
So I listened real carefully when O'Mara was discussing the bike. He was bragging about the supension the handling everything but I don't recall him ever talking about the motor. I do remember the tech guy bragging about it but maybe O'Mara didn't want to say anything bad about the bike so he omitted the motor? Then again maybe I just missed it but just my .02
 

nephron

Dr. Feel Good
Joined
Jun 15, 2001
Messages
2,552
Likes
0
#10
Also, Johnny O' has his nose so far up the Leprechaun's, well, you get the picture, that he's gonna say all sorts of wonderful things about Honda now.
Johnny O': "Hey, this ain't so magically delicious. ...And what are these? Your (2) Lucky Charms?"

Okay. LAME. I know. :o

he,he :p
 
Joined
Jan 7, 2001
Messages
320
Likes
0
#11
The mags always say the bike is good. Who do you think pays for the advertising? Be silly to bash your bread and butter. As far as Johnny O, It's no secret that he's in tight with Honda, Heck he delivered Ricky didn't he. Did you notice the number on the bike? 4. In that matter, Notice the number on the CR450F in the cyclenews test. Bet you can't guess it! Anyways, I ride em and make my own decision.
 

zio

Mr. Atlas
Joined
Jul 28, 2000
Messages
2,291
Likes
0
#12
Re: Re: Biased Bike Reviews

Originally posted by Darby O'Gill

Like Vic says.:silly:

Also, Johnny O' has his nose so far up the Leprechaun's, well, you get the picture, that he's gonna say all sorts of wonderful things about Honda now.

I feel another flame coming on . . . :think
Hold the cynicism for just a sec.- isn't it at all possible that Johnny is an honest person,and that'shis honest review? I dunno, I just don't like convicting people like that before I know them. I like to give most the benefit of the doubt. Then if they burn me, that's it. But come on- what if the bike really is that great, and the guy wanted to praise it? Now how am I supposed to know, now that you guys cast this shadow of doubt.

Me? I'm an honest person. I sell insurance for a living. It's not easy to overcome the stereotypes, but I have. First of all- I don't cold call. I get all of my business from referrals- as in people call me after being referred by friends/family/associates. I tell people if what they already have is better than what I've got. I lose a lot of business doing that. But at least I can sleep at night.

The guys at MXA have, though I don't recall the details, deserved much of the flaming here on DRN. Yeah, I know, he'd be stupid to bite the hand that feeds him. But Johnny needed a Devil's advocate. Maybe ESPN2 needs to be slapped for not getting an impartial opinion.

There. Boy, the view sure is good from atop the soapbox. :cool:
 

XRpredator

AssClown SuperPowers
Damn Yankees
Joined
Aug 2, 2000
Messages
13,511
Likes
19
#13
Darby O'Gill, eh? :cool:

Thanks, zio, I needed a laugh this week.

A little humor goes a long ways.:)

Now, excuse me while I chase down that puka while looking for King Brian and his pot o' gold. Watch out for the Banshee! :eek:
 

zio

Mr. Atlas
Joined
Jul 28, 2000
Messages
2,291
Likes
0
#14
good. I had to stretch for the rest of the post, it was just a reason to quote ya. Have a good one, pal.:)
 

funktree

Subscriber
Joined
Jul 21, 2001
Messages
359
Likes
0
#15
The new dirt rider has reviews of the 2002 cr125 and yz125. in the honda review they brag about how one click on the forks will make the bike handle different and how tunable it is. In the yamaha review they complain about how the clickers on the yamaha do the same thing.