FlyinHawaiin
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Merry Christmas you crazy dirt freaks!
Defending the 2-strokes
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FlyinHawaiin
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I dont think getting rid of 2-strokes will be happening anytime soon, not until they have enough technology to make 4-strokes better in every way and even though they have come a long way, Making it the ultimate animal just isnt going to be easy. Going to take alot of time and alot of patience.
I dont see how they could just completely get rid of two strokes. I like how the power of the two stroke's power is right there. I have rode four strokes before and they are a little too sluggish for comfort. I know this is just an opinion but i figured i would help the cause.
Dirtbike'n man
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WELL i am AGAINST THE BAN OF 2 strokes... for less money i can make a 2 stroke way more powerfull then a thumper and 200+ dollars for a muffler and pipe. when a two stroke can cost 90 dollars for a fmf shorty. EVERY THING IS CHEAPER FOR A 2 Stroke my 1982 IT 175 can beat the pants of an 86 xr 250 with over bore double carbs and muffler. MY IT IS bone stock. U CAN BEAT MY NEXT BIKE IS GONNA BE A YZ 250
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hi, 2 strokes suck.
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see, 2 strokes suck so bad they won't even let you sell 'em.
Dirtbike'n man
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hey xr predator i will bet u that ur PANSY LIL XR WOULD GET WHOPED AROUND THE TRACK BY A YZ 250 or 125 and a 85 so i wouldn't be talkin smack unless u can back that up
Dirtbike'n man
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and i bet my 2 stroke IT will beat your HEAVY AND SLOW BIKE IN THE WOODS HAHA
man I have riddin 2 strokes all my life, I love there power,smell,sound and most of all they are cheap to hop up and repair.
a friend of mine just had his o2 yzf250 bend a couple valves for no reason at all, other then the fact that they are not built to last. he has a 1600.00 parts bill just for the topend parts that were trashed in the ordeal. he still has to pay someone to fix the darn thing because i refuse to help.
I have heard of many people having the same crap happen to there thumpers, its all about money
anyway i just got a killer deal on my 04 cr250, ya wanna know why because the thumpers are killing sales and they have to give them away, I for one will buy 2 strokes for aslong as they make them, then i will buy the newest one i can find and keep it till them f@#$%^ epa bastages pry it out of my dead hands
a friend of mine just had his o2 yzf250 bend a couple valves for no reason at all, other then the fact that they are not built to last. he has a 1600.00 parts bill just for the topend parts that were trashed in the ordeal. he still has to pay someone to fix the darn thing because i refuse to help.
I have heard of many people having the same crap happen to there thumpers, its all about money
anyway i just got a killer deal on my 04 cr250, ya wanna know why because the thumpers are killing sales and they have to give them away, I for one will buy 2 strokes for aslong as they make them, then i will buy the newest one i can find and keep it till them f@#$%^ epa bastages pry it out of my dead hands
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When 2-strokes are outlawed, only outlaws will have 2-strokes! :ohmy:XRpredator said:
The 2-stroke black market :thumb: Hey kid, take a ride on this 2-stroke. I know, I know there illegal, but just try it one time, it ain't gonna hurt ya. That 4-stroke you got just ain't gonna do it for ya once you ride this bike. Don't worry, I'll always be around to give your 2-stroke fix whenever you need it. :laugh:
TheJunkMan
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I'll make the switch when I have to.
moto2121 said:
LOL :eek: No reason at all huh? :cool:
Papakeith said:
Maybe aliens abducted his valve's Young's modulus. :ohmy:
If you go ask your local race track promoter what his common complaints are I am willing to bet the answer you get back is noise. I have never heard of one single track owner getting "smell" complaints.
I think 2 stroke 250's will continue to be made for MX racing being closed course competition only. I really don't know what will happen with 125's but I suspect they will be dropped from the OEM's lineup well before the 250's will. Everybody racing 125's is grabbing for the F models now.
RCannon mentioned early in the thread that noise will be attacked next. It will be. They just backed us all into a corner we'll never get out of now. Once they succeed in eliminating 2 strokes, they will go after the noise factor. Anybody with an ounce of brain knows the 4 strokes are way LOUD and they will be the targets of many attacks nationwide before you know it. The result will be that we probably will have severely restricted 4 stroke sound emmisions in the future, which will kill power levels and with the 2 stroke gone we all will be riding bikes that will never satisfy the power rush we enjoy now. Private tracks are deep deep trouble in my opinion. I know of several guys now that can't let 4 strokes on their tracks because the complaint meter gets pegged down at city hall when they do.
I don't have a lot of experience with 4 stroke engines but I don't see anything bad with the maintenance work other then the extra time involved. I have only done the cam timing on a 250F once, and while it was frustrating in the first attempt once you get the procedure down it's not bad at all. I'm not against 4 strokes but I can see the problems they are going to cause too. I'm very surprised that people have embraced them as much as they have. Thinking back to when I was a kid, the only thing people ever bitched about was the noise and these 4 strokes are trumping that up even more. I just don't see the good in it to be honest. The 450's in the 250 class are just as unfair as the 250's are in the 125 class in my opinion. I've ridden a few and the power advantages are definitely there.
I think 2 stroke 250's will continue to be made for MX racing being closed course competition only. I really don't know what will happen with 125's but I suspect they will be dropped from the OEM's lineup well before the 250's will. Everybody racing 125's is grabbing for the F models now.
RCannon mentioned early in the thread that noise will be attacked next. It will be. They just backed us all into a corner we'll never get out of now. Once they succeed in eliminating 2 strokes, they will go after the noise factor. Anybody with an ounce of brain knows the 4 strokes are way LOUD and they will be the targets of many attacks nationwide before you know it. The result will be that we probably will have severely restricted 4 stroke sound emmisions in the future, which will kill power levels and with the 2 stroke gone we all will be riding bikes that will never satisfy the power rush we enjoy now. Private tracks are deep deep trouble in my opinion. I know of several guys now that can't let 4 strokes on their tracks because the complaint meter gets pegged down at city hall when they do.
I don't have a lot of experience with 4 stroke engines but I don't see anything bad with the maintenance work other then the extra time involved. I have only done the cam timing on a 250F once, and while it was frustrating in the first attempt once you get the procedure down it's not bad at all. I'm not against 4 strokes but I can see the problems they are going to cause too. I'm very surprised that people have embraced them as much as they have. Thinking back to when I was a kid, the only thing people ever bitched about was the noise and these 4 strokes are trumping that up even more. I just don't see the good in it to be honest. The 450's in the 250 class are just as unfair as the 250's are in the 125 class in my opinion. I've ridden a few and the power advantages are definitely there.
Black Mamba
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2-Stroke production still stopping in 2006?
Last time I checked up on the status of 2-stroke production 2005 was said to be the last year and was wondering if thats still the case.
Last time I checked up on the status of 2-stroke production 2005 was said to be the last year and was wondering if thats still the case.
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