Hey now, some of us "C" riders aren't sandbagging. I only did well in season points by showing up. My points at each race would have put me at the very bottom of "B". Maybe next season I'll be fast enough to sandbag. ;)salgeek said:I think it's time to showcase those who rode the "C" class for a season or two?
polishsausage said:My definition of a sandbagger......someone that chooses to stay in a lower class and continually get high finishes when he could move to the next class up and finish in at least mid pack on a consistent basis
salgeek said:I think it's time to showcase those who rode the "C" class for a season or two?
nickolino said:Can't happen Don the godfather of the blues is still licking his wounds after factory freddy the fastest man in mich in or outa bed thumped him. But hey we should be as good they got D14 to make a whole new class for them. Capn Dunn we need a BB class!
Thanks for the diagnosis Doctor! Glad ya got it all figured out for me.polishsausage said::blah: :blah: :blah:
UP Magoo said:Thanks for the diagnosis Doctor! Glad ya got it all figured out for me.
Please just point me to the "right" class, so I don't continue to offend anyone. As you already know (from someone calling me silly names), I'm a bad, bad boy because I stole those cool plastic trophies from them other guys! They're entitled to them, you know, because, well, they did pay an entry fee and they tried their best.
Of course, so did I.
salgeek said:Until the AMA or D14/D15 says I have a 100 advancement points I'm B for 2009. The only reason this would change is if a fellow D14/D15 rider personally approached me and said it's time to move up. Until then I'm going to enjoy a B Hi-point or two.
Petitioning to a lower class should be banished from the AMA rule book.
UP Magoo said:Now, the issue of moving back down is a separate issue. Your posts reopen an old wound (for some), where recently a rider allegedly moved down because he didn’t (couldn’t?) finish well in A, so he went back to B where he could “do better.” He went on to clean house in the B class. Of course, he earned the advancement points and was re-promoted to A (which seems to indicate the promotion system works).
nickolino said::nod: Polishsausage maybe this helps. A-AA ride because they love to. C riders ride because they love to Trophy hounds that stay in the B class because they like trophy's more than anything
UP Magoo said:Carl, this is getting tedious. For whatever reason you continue to insinuate that I’m “sandbagging.” As far as I know, we don’t know each other. I tossed a little poke at ya, and your feelings got hurt. Sorry.
From your original post, you rode 20 years ago as an A rider, and you’re looking to get back into riding enduros. Of course, since I have a guilty conscience from being a sandbagger, I don’t want you sandbagging back into the Senior B class either! I ride for the trophies!
Seriously, the AMA has a pretty good system in place for advancing riders. You earn advancement points for finishing in the top 15% of the B Class. So, it seems to me, if you’re finishing well in the class, and going to the events, you’re gonna get the points and you will be promoted to A.
Now, the issue of moving back down is a separate issue. Your posts reopen an old wound (for some), where recently a rider allegedly moved down because he didn’t (couldn’t?) finish well in A, so he went back to B where he could “do better.” He went on to clean house in the B class. Of course, he earned the advancement points and was re-promoted to A (which seems to indicate the promotion system works).
Now, I attend the majority of the enduros in D14 and D16. For the past 5 or 6 years. True, I’ve been improving over that time. Please take the time to review how many times I’ve finished in the top 15%. If I was “sandbagging,” I’d be promoted to A by now! I don’t think there’s anybody in either District (in my class) that is working harder to EARN the advancement points to become an A rider – by going to lots of events, and riding as well as I can. I’ll be proud to earn that A card!
And, I know that when I get bumped to “A,” I’ll be lower than mid-pack in the class. Big Deal. I'll still have fun!
So, calm down. It’s all fun. Ride whatever class you want, I don’t care. If you’re going to the events, riding B Class, and kicking butt, you’ll get promoted. Simple as that.
salgeek said:Carl,
Having seen the petitioning process flagrantly manipulated by rider and D11 I do not share your opinion.
As for your other comments, let me know if you ever plan on offering a riding clinic - I'll be sure and sign-up.
Must be my guilty conscience... see ya at the races!polishsausage said:You just spent a lot of your time explaining and explaining and explaining how you are not a sandbagger...
Scott, I don't believe that was directed at you.salgeek said:Nickolino - nice slam to B and C riders. Where is the wisdom - sir? You are the elder statesman - are you not?
I've always been nice to you both online and in person. Is it too much to ask that you return the favor?
Well done! ;)nickolino said::nener: And they say Ice Fishing is'nt fun.
woodsracer369 said:And the winner is.........
Shaggy with the hare scramble/light team post - - 8,404 views / 213 posts
a strong 2nd is DW with his GM-Ford-Chry - - 5,185 views / 192 posts
the mayor could only garner 3rd place (sandbagger) a-aa - - 2,525 views / 96 posts and running out of steam
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