Penalties

[Spider]

PICKERINGTON, Ohio (January 25, 2007) – AMA Racing has announced that riders Joshua Hill, Jason Thomas and Nick Wey have been penalized for using illegal fuel at round three of the Amp’d Mobile AMA Supercross Series at Angel Stadium in Anaheim, Calif., on Jan. 20.

Fuel samples from nine motorcycles were collected at the Anaheim 2 round and the samples from the motorcycles of Hill, Thomas and Wey were found to be in non-compliance. Fuel from the motorcycles of Steve Boniface, Michael Byrne, Kyle Partridge, Chad Reed, James Stewart and Jake Weimer was found to be in compliance.

As is required by the AMA Supercross/Motocross rulebook, the samples were sent to a certified testing lab which confirmed the results of the testing.

Hill, Thomas and Wey have been disqualified from the event and have forfeited their event points and purse.


Sucks for wey and hill because i believe that they both had there first podiums last weekend

 

[whenfoxforks-ruled]

I don't remember what they did to RC, but that don't sound like it!!! They need a new fuel supplier!

 

[Moose]

They penalized RC 25 points. This is worse.

Disappointing. :|

 

[Okiewan]

They penalized RC 25 points.

.. and then gave it back.

 

[Moose]

Really? Wow. I wasn't aware of that. I just did a search for illegal fuel and that article came up. Read the first 3 sentences and said that he was penalized 25 points.

 

[XRpredator]

I don't think Team MDK/Xyence has near the resources that Makita/Suzuki had to fight this penalty. Sucks for Wey :(

 

[mideastrider]

Wey was running way to good, I was afraid that would not go over to good.
I wish he had held onto 2nd place but he would've got banned 6weeks for that.(I Bet)

 

[oldguy]

Wey was running way to good, I was afraid that would not go over to good.
I wish he had held onto 2nd place but he would've got banned 6weeks for that.(I Bet)

So your belief is that Wey was singled out just because he rode so good? As far as I know the samples are random at each round.
I just wish if the AMA is going to keep testing fuel and putting out penalties that they would just provide the fuel and have a standard. If the fuel they handed out isn't in the bike or has been doctored then you know there was an intentional cheating attempt.

 

[JST122]

It seems like most times they test the entire podium from the big bore class and then additional randomly selected riders. I was under the impression that they always tested the podium finishers in each class and then a random selection of riders but after reading that news release the rest of the lites class podium riders were not tested (Villopoto and Lawrence).

 

[Okiewan]

Really? Wow. I wasn't aware of that. I just did a search for illegal fuel and that article came up. Read the first 3 sentences and said that he was penalized 25 points.

Did you know that Reed and Stewart were also penalized for the same thing, but were NOT given their points back after protest?

 

[Moose]

according to supercrossonline.com, they gave Carmichael his points back but fined Suzuki $20 000.

 

[rickyd]

I dont really care about the points, I just saw Wey put in a good ride :)
AMA should start providing fuel. Take out all the guess work. :|

 

[Okiewan]

according to supercrossonline.com, they gave Carmichael his points back but fined Suzuki $20 000.

Which means what? That yes, it was wrong (therefore a fine), but not wrong enough to piss-off the goat? :bang:

 

[BSWIFT]

I think they should pay Rich to fuel the bikes with his personal special blend. If they doctor or change it, he gets to pull a middle line backer hit on them right before the main of the next race, right in front of the crowd. ;)

 

[kelseybrent]

I like the gas penalties. I think they should have a "BIG WHEEL OF PENALTIES" that they spin at the beginning of the following SX, to make it truly random.

 

[XRpredator]

AMA should start providing fuel. Take out all the guess work. :|

Just like NASCAR

Trouble is, there's sponsor money from different fuel companies so I'd imagine some might have a headache over that.

Trying to remember back in the day in NASCAR . . . the sanctioning body used to supply Union76/Unocal, but there were cars sponsored by Phillips 66 and Citgo . . .

I like the gas penalties. I think they should have a "BIG WHEEL OF PENALTIES" that they spin at the beginning of the following SX, to make it truly random.

break a deal, face the wheel!

 

[D Lafleur]

To be honest I have no respect for one of the more popular moto fuel suppliers. Consistancy and quality go hand in hand.

 

[kmccune]

They don't need to supply any fuel, they just need to make the tests realistic. I don't remember the PPM off the top of my head, but when storing you gas in a steel can with a soldered seam puts you over the top... well someone has no idea what they are doing! :ohmy:

 

[Moose]

BBMX's response <a href="http://racerxill.com/breakingnews/article/2237/bbmx-response-on-fuel-penalty.aspx"> here.</a>

 

[Solid State]

Fuel regulations are unnecessary in the 450 (open) class IMHO. Let them run whatever concoction they wish. Problem solved. Does any really care besides the AMA? Could you imagine complaining you should have placed better if only you had better fuel!!! Give me a break. At their level, its all rider and setup, fuel has nothing to do with it. Those bikes have more hp and response than even they need. Just my $.02

 

[Someone]

Let them use rocket fuel. The fuel doesn't decide the winner. AMA was lucky to get my $40 for 2007. I don't think I will be supporting them or their decisions any longer. Their magazine pretty much sucks any more.

 

[Chili]

I've been out of town and haven't followed up on this yet but for them to take points is a farce of cosmic proportions. How they can justify this after the RC debacle last season is beyond comprehension.

And on another note how the heck does VP keep coming out of these situations without a huge pair of goat (no pun intended) horns. They keep referring this back to the teams as poor handling of fuels, I call BS and that VP's control of the spec of the fuel is lacking.

 

[JST122]

I've been out of town and haven't followed up on this yet but for them to take points is a farce of cosmic proportions. How they can justify this after the RC debacle last season is beyond comprehension.QUOTE]


Im with you, after that whole mess you would think they would come up with a solid system before issuing out more points penalties.

I guess its a good thing Im not racing the San Francisco round this weekend because if they tested me my 76 pump gas would fail and I would be DQ'd too. ;)

 

[faultylogic]

If I remember correctly RC got his points back because the rule was written for the 2-stroke bikes and really didnt make any extra power for a four-stroke motor. The team was still fined because they broke the written rules, stupid or not.

What they are testing for this season does provide extra power and in the article on supercross com it was pointed out that the AMA did raise the limits in benefit of the riders and that 8 other riders tested came back with good fuel numbers.

This could be bad.

 

[kmccune]

If I remember correctly RC got his points back because the rule was written for the 2-stroke bikes and really didnt make any extra power for a four-stroke motor. The team was still fined because they broke the written rules, stupid or not.
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:yell:
Good thing the AMA has the rights all sewed up legally, or else everyone there would be out of a job when everyone discontinued their membership.