SPOILER St. Louis SX 2006 Results
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I went to the St Louis race to see RC one last time in Supercross (hearing that this might be his last year). And was deeply disappointed to see him DNF. In my opinion, during his heat race, his style was the old Ricky. Wild, hanging out trying to pass everyone as quick as he could on the first lap. You could tell that hit he got on the head, took something out of him when he went to his bike and was just cruising around the track. It would anyone. I wasn't watching him when he went down, but when I looked over I thought two bikes were involved at first. Just because of how fast his bike was flipping. And all I saw was tires spinning thru the air.
That also brings me to another point. I haven't caught a Light race on Television this year, and this was the first one I have seen. I noticed that every Light rider that could triple the section we were on (which I would estimate to be the top 10-11 maybe 12) had to seat bounce it. And out of these riders that could triple it, only 3 or so could actually downside it. The rest carried the dirt back to the pits in the frame and pegs, or bottom of the forks. I didn't like observing this jump.
Chad Reed can ride; there is no doubt about that. He was just in the right position at the right time (i.e. third place when the top two go down). And most of the time he is usually in that position, but consistency pays off in a series of races.
Mike Brown did have a 2stroke, pushed around in the pits. But I left when RC went down in the main, so I guess Brown was riding a 2sroke? I guess he could have had a 4stroke in reserve?
That also brings me to another point. I haven't caught a Light race on Television this year, and this was the first one I have seen. I noticed that every Light rider that could triple the section we were on (which I would estimate to be the top 10-11 maybe 12) had to seat bounce it. And out of these riders that could triple it, only 3 or so could actually downside it. The rest carried the dirt back to the pits in the frame and pegs, or bottom of the forks. I didn't like observing this jump.
Chad Reed can ride; there is no doubt about that. He was just in the right position at the right time (i.e. third place when the top two go down). And most of the time he is usually in that position, but consistency pays off in a series of races.
Mike Brown did have a 2stroke, pushed around in the pits. But I left when RC went down in the main, so I guess Brown was riding a 2sroke? I guess he could have had a 4stroke in reserve?
Why would anyone walk out? :bang: That doesn't make any sense to me. I love dirtbikes and I'd stay if RC, JS, and CR went out just to see the action, hear the noise, and smell the exhaust. If nothing else show some love for the sport and support the other guys that are out there racing. I think they deserve it, but hey its your money.Wraith said:
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Actually this is already the longest amount of time that I have paid any attention to this series. Unless a local rider is in there I didn't much care at this point in the last few seasons.
Nikki's lap scores for the top three is pretty interesting. Everyone of those guys have had bad races, bad crashes, and pushed to the limit. I think one of the things that stands out is that Reed is the rider who has had the least hard crashes or bad finishes. Points are showing that today.
He has proven to be able to be dominate, however it was at a time that RC didn't "have" to beat him.
James shows unbelievable speed, but has crashed alot when he surpassed warp 9.9. Of course he has done good when he was able to curb the "youth energy".
Some one said earlier "slow and steady wins the race" , one thing for sure it will be the one that is most consistant, and can stay healthy. This "kids" are putting on a real show and racing very hard out there, hope it comes down to the last main event.
Also, what happens if Ivan figures out how to race hard for 20 laps? He seems to need help after 15th lap, when he gets that down, it will add even more to this whole deal.
Nikki's lap scores for the top three is pretty interesting. Everyone of those guys have had bad races, bad crashes, and pushed to the limit. I think one of the things that stands out is that Reed is the rider who has had the least hard crashes or bad finishes. Points are showing that today.
He has proven to be able to be dominate, however it was at a time that RC didn't "have" to beat him.
James shows unbelievable speed, but has crashed alot when he surpassed warp 9.9. Of course he has done good when he was able to curb the "youth energy".
Some one said earlier "slow and steady wins the race" , one thing for sure it will be the one that is most consistant, and can stay healthy. This "kids" are putting on a real show and racing very hard out there, hope it comes down to the last main event.
Also, what happens if Ivan figures out how to race hard for 20 laps? He seems to need help after 15th lap, when he gets that down, it will add even more to this whole deal.
I think Ivan is getting it dialed in. It seems like CR's comments toward him were inspiring, indeed. I also see him riding on the edge of a crash everytime he puts a move on CR. He damn near went down in Heat 1 (I think, I'll have watch it again) after he passed CR, so it seems he is willing to push it. I have a feeling his trainers are going to bust his arse to get him in shape for 20 laps. Its going to be interesting to see if KW is healthy enough to run at that level and in shape enough to go the distance. If so, then that may throw another twist into the points battle.wardy said:
Okiewan said:
Me too.
You know what I mean Okie. A lot of people were highly critical of James' performance last year when he wasn't winning. Now Chad becomes the points leader & hardly gets any praise. Winning a championship doesn't just come down to being on the #1 podium every week. A poor result, a mechanical problem, an injury; all these things can change the results. It comes down to consistancy and a little luck.
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I finally got a chance to see the race. Observations…
RC hit hard. No surprise on the DNF, I was surprised that he was able to walk at all.
Bubba didn’t choke like I thought he did. He simply was taken out by the tough-block. His first problem was starting the bike facing off-track. However, after he got his “Monster Energy Amp’ed Mobile Dunlop Kawasaki KX450F” started (in just a few kicks) he went off-track and stalled it. That’s where his demons got him.
Reed won the race fair-n-square. To say “Reed only won because RC and JS weren’t in the race” just isn’t fair. He put a nice pass on Bubba and Bubba never closed the gap. He tracked down “the chump” and made a sweet pass. (BTW, Ivan does get better every race).
And I’m real tired of those announcers.
Looks like SX fans have a rare thing, a fun season to watch.
RC hit hard. No surprise on the DNF, I was surprised that he was able to walk at all.
Bubba didn’t choke like I thought he did. He simply was taken out by the tough-block. His first problem was starting the bike facing off-track. However, after he got his “Monster Energy Amp’ed Mobile Dunlop Kawasaki KX450F” started (in just a few kicks) he went off-track and stalled it. That’s where his demons got him.
Reed won the race fair-n-square. To say “Reed only won because RC and JS weren’t in the race” just isn’t fair. He put a nice pass on Bubba and Bubba never closed the gap. He tracked down “the chump” and made a sweet pass. (BTW, Ivan does get better every race).
And I’m real tired of those announcers.
Looks like SX fans have a rare thing, a fun season to watch.
I'm not going to go back through this thread to find some folks to quote but for those that think Tedesco is rapidly covering the gap with Reed, don't hold your breath waiting for him to make the pass for good. I like Tedesco and he rode a very nice race but he stayed in front of Reed for one reason, Chad's struggles with the rythmn section. Once Chad figured out that section he walked away from Tedesco and also kept or increased the gap he had on Stewart. I'm not sure what happened with Stewart and that same section either, in practice and his heat race he was the only rider all night to do that section triple-triple and quad out but in the main he cased the quad out twice in a row allowing Chad to get back by and that was the end of it he never tried that rythmn again.
I honestly don't see Reed winning any races that RC and Stewart manage to stay off the ground, however that doesn't mean the ones he does win should be cast aside nor should the title be derided if the other two can't get to the finish line.
I honestly don't see Reed winning any races that RC and Stewart manage to stay off the ground, however that doesn't mean the ones he does win should be cast aside nor should the title be derided if the other two can't get to the finish line.
Almost forgot, I figured it may not be RC's night when he just about tossed the night away on the Hot Lap after the opening ceremonies. RC throws a huge whip over the triple which is nice except he is still a bit sideways and a bit short when he lands, thought he was gonna do a digger right there :yikes:
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Okiewan said:
Lap times just show raw speed potential. Reed has the potential and ability to be just as fast as RC and Bubba. Their raw speed is pretty equally matched.
Now, getting a good start, and stringing together 20 consistently fast laps, even through traffic if need be, or while under pressure from other riders, and with the fewest mistakes, is a different story.
Plus I also believe every track is different, and certain sections will favor certain riders. Like Chad might be the fastest if there is a gnarly whoops section. Bubba might excel if there is a tricky rhythm/jump combo. RC might dominate if there are some crazy turns.
Regardless.... we're 7 races into a 16 race season, and there is no way anyone will be running away with the championship in the next few rounds. How cool is that!!
:cool: :ride:
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Wraith said:
Now that's a true SX fan right there! Haha! Pay good money for your seats, then "give up" and walk out on lap one when RC pulls off the track. You missed a great race. :moon: Awesome several lap battle between Reed, Tedesco, and Stewart. I couldn't have asked for anything much more exciting than a points shake-up like that. Who would have ever dreamed, RC 20th and Stewart 17th, and Reed taking over the points lead.
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CaptainObvious said:
Actually.... about a hour after the hard whoops crash, RC rode incredibly well in the Semi qualifier. I'm sure he was hurting, but he still put in a hard 6 laps, turning all laps between a 51.1 and a 52.0, and pulling over 21 seconds on the second place rider. That's what made his mechanical DNF in the Main so confusing for the fans, because he wasn't riding "injured" in the Semi.
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Vic said:
Great, yah I was thinking some mood music, different oils, some tasty drinks...
When can we get together? :moon:
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Did anyone watch this on TV yet? A couple bullet points from me:
At the race, during the main, watching RC ride out and thru the tunnel, he was slapping hands of the kids who were hanging over the rail to the tunnel, so his spirits were ok. He wasn't sulking.
On TV, did anyone notice the back end sagging on his bike? It sure looked like about half the travel was gone to me. Broken shock collar is what he told the interviewer.
As for Bubba dropping back, he did kick that 450 non-stop for about a lap and a half. That would take the wind out of about anyone's sails. And a cruising Bubba is still about as fast as almost anyone else on the track. :nod:
At the race, during the main, watching RC ride out and thru the tunnel, he was slapping hands of the kids who were hanging over the rail to the tunnel, so his spirits were ok. He wasn't sulking.
On TV, did anyone notice the back end sagging on his bike? It sure looked like about half the travel was gone to me. Broken shock collar is what he told the interviewer.
As for Bubba dropping back, he did kick that 450 non-stop for about a lap and a half. That would take the wind out of about anyone's sails. And a cruising Bubba is still about as fast as almost anyone else on the track. :nod:
nikki said:
Yeah, I can't hide my true feelings for indoors very well. I would have liked to see Ricky ride, as well as Robbie Reynard in the main event. But neither were in it. And I got to see a few boys from around the states try to make it in. But, what can I say, I never liked ExciteBike that much on Nintendo.
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Yes, after I saw him talk to Krista Voda, I rewound back (damn, I love the DVR) and yes, it was obvious there was something busted in his rear suspension. Sure, he coulda rode around for points, but how could he guarantee anything better than 20th?BigLou said:
Same here. This season is rockin'Okiewan said:
