Yelling at slow riders

firecracker22

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You know what I’ve developed a recent dislike for? The morons in the C class who yell at me during races. Actually, anybody who yells at me during a race. If I’m in trouble I will do my absolute best to get off the track. If I’m riding slower than whoever is behind me wants to go, then PASS and get it over with! I am not going to move! I am racing too and your job is to go around slower riders. That is the point of a race. Yelling at me only pisses me off. Ooops, I accidentally goosed the throttle and coated you with mud! Never can tell what these beginners will do! :p

Okay, all this stems from my recent race, the ill-fated Toasted Hare Scramble. I was having problems in the slick nasty mud and 2’ deep ruts. I was going along as fast as I could go and these C riders (4-stroke am, vet am, sportsman etc) kept yelling “Get out of the *&@$^$% way!” Sorry buddy, what do you think I’m doing, sight seeing? I paid my $35 to be here just like you did. Moron. So I just ignored them. I will try to get out of the way if I’ve crashed. I will pick my bike up and push it out of the way as fast as I can but I’m just a girl so sometimes that might take me one or two more tries than it should. Once again, yelling or running over my rear tire, foot or helmet aren’t going to help. Now I’m not saying we should treat racing like croquet or mini golf or something but shut your stupid mouth and don’t yell at me. If you’re fast enough you can pass my slow little rear end without a problem. I’ve even had A riders do this to me a few months ago—on a wide forest road part of the course! The little imbecile yelled something and since it was a wide road, I obligingly moved to the right (Most people pass on the left, am I right?) and he tries to pass me on the right and took us both out! GRRRRR.
 

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Whenever the rare occasion that I do pass someone, I always yell "Thanks!"

Or I'll yell to someone I'm coming up on "Look out!" or "Careful!" so they can tell I'm there. I do my best to be polite, though. No sense in cussing someone out. Like you say, firecracker, that person paid to be out there too.

I will let loose a string of profanities when someone takes me out (and usually himself in the process!)--He then knows who done wrong!
 
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(LaRider20 posting under son's screen name.) I've been yelled at one time for going slow and it was on a track during practice. That person never yelled at me again. On the other hand when I pass, and there is pleanty of room I don't acknowledge the other rider, but if it's tight I'll usually give a little wave and depending on where I'm at, I'll take a quick glance back at them. Courtesy will always win in the end.
 

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Letting another rider know where you are is far different than demading they yield to your superior presence. The next person who does that to me better watch out or they'll get a stick through their spokes. :p
 

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I sort of agree and disagree with this one. When I am pushing hard I yell at every one I need to pass, but I don't yell "You're an idiot and you smell like goat! Loser!" I just yell "hey,hey,hey,hey,heeeeeeeeeeeey, hey" until they hear me. I do expect slower riders to cheat to one side and leave a line for me where they can. For instance, if the trail splits briefly they can take either line, but I hope they back off a tiny instant if we are gonna tie when the trails rejoin.

However, on the contrary last weekend I rode a qualifier style enduro which requires flat out speed in short (4-5 minute) sections. In these tests a second can cost you plenty and you've got to plan your time. If I see a slow guy on a XR400 checking into the section, I'm not going to take the spot 15 seconds behind him. Using this strategy, I checked into a section after a long gap, only to catch a guy babystepping in the last few turns of the test. I used my warning yell, and he stopped in the middle of the trail in a foot and a half deep trench. I had to get him started again to get around. :p

P.S. Don't get the wrong idea I am a very curteous rider and even when yelling doesn't work I don't resort to knocking anybody down. I just have to take a line that isn't there or take away their line somehow.

Oh yeah, I am the king of the thank you's.
 
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I have several thoughts on the topic.
First, I do not agree in yelling profanities at someone or insulting them (unless they take you out on purpose).

However, I have been held up by lappers causing me to lose first place due to being passed. This was because I could not jump a section and lost momentum. The guy behind me was back about 15 feet, but could jump the section just as the lappers finished rolling it. It was imediately before the finish line. What stinks is that I had held him off for 4 laps, only to loose first in the last 100 feet of the race. Oh well.

So, when I am catching lappers (not all that often) I yell to warn them and hope they will move over.

One more thing. A friend of mine has a passing technique. He likes to scream like a wildman when he comes up behind someone. He hopes that it will freak them out and cause them to make a mistake in the turn, or maybe look up. I know it works on me, I really tense up knowing he is screaming up behind me. I do fine till I know he is there. :)
 
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If they are a Pro, Or intermediate I will let them go but If there(in my class) and there are some sections he falls behind me(let's say whoops) then he is riding my back fender into a turn and he starts yelling I tell him where to go, it's a race buddy Not a "Im fast in one section so I win!!!!!I have actually gotten in ALOT of aguments after races about this! FireC this is weird I wanted to start a flame about this too!
 

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I will move if at all I can but I am not going to pull off and stop. I’m not going to risk crashing just to let someone by (who half the time is on the ground in front of ME a few hundred yards further). The problem with this particular race is it is shorter and more moto than many of the local off-road races. So there are a lot of motocross racers out there to show all the old off road guys on rat bikes how cool they are. They, I suspect (yes I am stereotyping here; there are plenty of exceptions but this seems to be the norm) are the ones who are rude. I guess part of my irritation is that this is the short course, folks. Nobody’s going to win any money here. We’re all competing for bragging rights, a little bitty piece of shiny plastic, and maybe for a few some series points. But I will not move for somebody who calls me names.
 

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I know how you feel. In the schoolboy class where I get whopped, I get lapped by 80's, 12 year olds, and 125 experts(isn't it sad?). Sometimes double and triple lapped. One obnoxious 125 rider always makes himself known by knocking any lapper off the track. I showed him one race by not letting him pass me and he lost the race because of it. I know how annoying this is, but you have to realize there are some really serious riders out there that will win at all costs!!!

But, on the flip side, I make my presence known by goosing the throttle and getting on peoples tails when I happen to lap people in the 125 C class. I am faster then them, but not fast enough so that I can blow by them so I need to tell them that I am there and usually they move over and let me by. When they don't, I try politely to pass them and usually can after a couple of laps.

Sounds like those riders in the west are real buggers!:p :confused:
 
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hare scrambles where i'm from are usally pretty tight. there fore so not to hold up the faster riders, and i mean faster, a yell is given usually "clear" and the slower rider tries to be curtious and leave a line to pass. It is a race, but race the people you can stay ahead of not the people you can block behind you. Getting blocked in a tight trail by a lapper will bother you when your second place and first place rider did not get blocked by the lapper before the trail tightend down to unpassible(safely)circumstances. Them are fighting words.
 

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These were fairly wide trails. And the riders weren’t yelling “Clear” or “Track” or anything else polite or printed here. I ride to the right of the trail when I hear someone’s behind and if I’m getting back on the trail after leaving it abruptly I wait until the pack goes by. I don’t ride to block anybody; I just wanted to finish. I got lapped by the lead gal already by this time, not that I expected to win.
 

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Back when I rode a KDX I was at this one enduro and kept getting stuck behind a KTM380 rider on my minute. In open terrain he would leave me eating his roost, but in the tight stuff he'd slow down and wouldn't let me pass. Everytime I cut a hotline around him I'd crash and he'd pass me back. I wore myself out trying to get around this guy. Luckily he didn't make it past the state police road block. :p

Lately I find myself passing more and more slower riders... I know, it's hard to believe, but there are riders out there slower than me. :confused: Whenever a slower rider pulls over I make sure to yell "thanks" to them. When a rider decides to hold their line I will first rev the engine, second yell "coming through" or "on your left/right" if there's room. If they don't yield and cannot hold their line I will pass them and the outcome may not be pretty. I realize they are racing too, but slower riders can be a hazard. Especially the ones who are all over the trail.

I still find myself getting passed, although I'm usually on the ground when it happens, but if I'm riding I'll hold my line if there's room to pass. If there's not room, or I can't hold my line I'll pull over and let the faster rider(s) pass me. A few precious seconds are not worth a trip to the ER and six months of recovery. :eek: Especially since I'm doing this for fun and not for the money. :scream:
 
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Originally posted by firecracker22
[ If I?m riding slower than whoever is behind me wants to go, then PASS and get it over with! I am not going to move! I am racing too and your job is to go around slower riders. That is the point of a race. Yelling at me only pisses me off. Ooops, I accidentally goosed the throttle and coated you with mud! Never can tell what these beginners will do! :p RRR. [/B]
sorry thats not how i took this quote. you sound like a curtious rider. motocrossers tend to bring out the devil in woods riders.:p
 

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What do you mean? How did you take it? The point is, I don't have a problem getting out of the way, I just don't want some idiot behind me calling me names because he doesn't have the skill to pass without me pulling off the course entirely. I wouldn't really roost someone unless he really deserved it but I'm really pissed about the subject.
 
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At the last harescramble i was in i didn't get passed once. I start out in the back of the pack and work my way up. That way theres no pressure behind me. I ended up passing almost every guy/girl in my class plus alot of intermediate riders. When i come up on someone i just pull in the clutch and rev the bike up a little. I never swear/mouth off at anyone unless they reall piss me off. Most people usually pull off to the side or i pass them on the side, or what happens the most is that they usually bite it(crash) because of the pressure. And whenever there is someone behind me I NEVER let them pass, if they want past me they have to fight for it. I usally fan the clutch and roost them until they back off and i loose them. Just my 2cents:)
 
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