NO-TOIL question.

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OK, I have been thinking about trying these out, they seem like a very good product.

But my question is i normal add a layer of grease on the mouth of the filter where it rests in the air box... Is this necessary with the No-Toil filters? If so then how does the normal soap get the grease off??
 
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Us no-toil grease and no-cleaner it will take it off. I do use hot water with the cleaner though and it works very well.
 

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I use No-Toil also.. I use cold water right from the garden hose.. The grease still comes right off.

I bought a bottle of No-Toil airbox cleaner this time around too.. It'll be the last bottle of this stuff that I buy. It's downright nasty. If you've ever smelled Aircraft Stripper, you will hate this stuff.. Same smell. Plus, it doesn't seem to get the airbox any cleaner than a good blast with the pressure washer does.
 
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letsride24-7 said:
OK, I have been thinking about trying these out, they seem like a very good product.

But my question is i normal add a layer of grease on the mouth of the filter where it rests in the air box... Is this necessary with the No-Toil filters? If so then how does the normal soap get the grease off??
No-Toil is the best filter oil/cleaner system I have ever used. I use normal grease on the filter lip and it comes right off with cleaning. I clean the filter in my wife's kitchen sink with no mess no smell. I will never use anything else.
 

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Big Bore Stroker said:
No-Toil is the best filter oil/cleaner system I have ever used. I use normal grease on the filter lip and it comes right off with cleaning. I clean the filter in my wife's kitchen sink with no mess no smell. I will never use anything else.
:nod:

Ditto to everything, except I use the No Toil grease.
 

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dirt bike dave said:
:nod:

Ditto to everything, except I use the No Toil grease.
indeed. The No-Toil stuff did make some of my Uni-filters come apart at the glued places a while back, though. Not sure if Uni has fixed that or not. We'll see how it does with the KTM Twin-Airs.
 

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XRpredator said:
indeed. The No-Toil stuff did make some of my Uni-filters come apart at the glued places a while back, though. Not sure if Uni has fixed that or not. We'll see how it does with the KTM Twin-Airs.
You can easily avoid that problem by using the Billywho O2 filters :)

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XRpredator said:
indeed. The No-Toil stuff did make some of my Uni-filters come apart at the glued places a while back, though. Not sure if Uni has fixed that or not. We'll see how it does with the KTM Twin-Airs.
My stock and twin air filters have never had an issue with the glued seems.
 

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Take a look at pro seal air filter gaskets. It's a neoprene gasket that you attach to your air box and then you don't need to use grease. I put one on my bike a year and a half ago and have never had a leak there. Much quicker and easier than grease. I really like the no toil products, by far the easier air filter cleaning/oiling method I've ever used.
 
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No-Toil may be the easiest system, but is it really as effective as other products at actually protecting your engine?
 

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76GMC1500 said:
No-Toil may be the easiest system, but is it really as effective as other products at actually protecting your engine?
yes
 

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No-Toil may be the easiest system, but is it really as effective as other products at actually protecting your engine?
Hard to say if the oil is as good or better at stopping dirt than other filter oils. IMO it performs about the same as other products I've used, but the convenience and ease of use are the deciding factors.

I've been using No Toil for years. I clean my filter every ride (unless there is no dust, its a short ride and I've been in front the whole time, LOL).

With No Toil, I've never observed any dirt get past my filter, or even onto the inside of the filter. On occasional long dusty rides, I've had the filter get pretty dirty.

Hopefully, there is a large 'safety' margin built in to everyone's filter maintenance practices. I think if you have a good quality filter and use reasonable maintenance practices, the No Toil should be good enough. But bring a spare, pre-oiled filter if you know you are going to be in dusty conditions and will have the opportunity to change a filter mid-ride.
 

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I have used No-Toil since 2000 and never had a seizure related to dirt getting into the bike. All the top ends I have done my piston and cylinder looked GREAT.

I will only use No-Toil. I have heard Bel-Ray is better but it is not biodegradable and I wash my air filters in the washing machine (on the hand wash cycle). I am VERY happy with No-Toil and will never use anything else.

I have tried Twin-Airs biodegradable stuff too but still like No-Toil better.
 
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Just asking, I've always run Bel-Ray but ran No-Toil last trip out because I had a free can of it. We'll see how well it performed, I haven't checked my filter since a very dusty trip to Reno that put a lot of miles on the bike. It goes on so thin and has so little tack compared to the Bel-Ray, it just didn't inspire confidence in its ability to stop dirt.